Navaros Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Is the posts count gone for good?If so, that's really unfair because guys who mostly just spam rather than make real posts, such as emprworm, dev_mech, desert_eagle, ethan (basically, everyone who won the Fed2k Spam award in the 7-way tie) etc. are listed highly on "The Top 50 Posters" even though all they ever do is spam. For you to take out the post count just like that, those guys are gonna be immortalized on that list but the list won't state the reality of the situation that "these guys got here by spamming incessantly"; so it's the legit posters who get shafted by this move and the spammers get glorified. Unless you removed that list from this site entirely. But even then, you're still catering to the spammers rather than reprimanding them.There are much better ways to deal with spammers like Gunwounds aside from taking away the post count. ie: you could appoint a Council (maybe the Landsraad) who Vote on who the Spammers are each month, and each spammer who gets a certain number of votes has his post count permanently reduced by 2000. This way, the legit posters get their due recogniztion for good service, spammers get thwarted as they should be, and the site is better for it.edit, to loweezee: since you asked, loweezee, i didn't forget you as a spammer during the Fed2k Awards. the reason i didn't mention you in this site update thread is because you haven't been here long enough to be relevant for the purposes of *this* post (if memory serves, that is...). however, if you want to see your Award: http://www.dune2k.com/forum/?board=27;action=display;threadid=10368 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 How dare you not mention me in the spammers list??? :'(Well,I still do not see the "GOOD" effects of removing post count to stop spammers *Scratches my head and wipe my glasses* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Cube Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 hmmm I think it is a good thing as was only a sword master! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seal89999 Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 common Gob put it back. Alot of people liked it. It wasent much but, I was excited when I got to Naib. I dident spam, it took a while and I got there the right way. I like the postions , its like a rank thing and that is a really fun feature of forums. Please dont dispose of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 There's some seriously weird sh*t going on. I just saw an already-lgged-in guy logging in, some guests viewing old threads that had been merged together, and even a guest logging out. :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted May 25, 2003 Author Share Posted May 25, 2003 Forums are read only for the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 He? What's this, it seems like I can still post. Or is it only a request for read-only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Read the Staff board notice. It says global meds can still post. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted May 27, 2003 Author Share Posted May 27, 2003 Ok part of the changes have been decided and are being coded now. There won't be anymore bans persay, unless the person is abusing the IM system or is just plan stupid, but instead we would limit their posting.The new method will restrict how many posts you can have per day, month, week, etc. By default everyone has unlimited like usual but if we find you are annoying us or breaking the rules we will restrict your posting rights. We will choose how long the restriction lasts, how many posts you can have during that time, and how many times the restriction will loop.So take for example someone who is just spamming threads, we would knock them down to being able to make only 1 post a week or less. They would still be able to view the boards just not post. The registration system will also change and require people to be approved before they can post to prevent people from just re-registering again.We are also going to be tougher on people who are pissing off the moderators. Rules for that will be released in the next few days, but the basic idea will be you piss us off we lower how much you can post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted May 29, 2003 Author Share Posted May 29, 2003 Posting has been turned back on. Some members have been restricted to certain numbers of posts-per-day, there will be a way to check that shortly. New rules are still being worked out and should hopefully be finished soon. Registration is turned off while it is updated.If you're wondering why you can't see the Dungeon its because it is now something only moderators see and won't be coming back for regular users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted May 29, 2003 Author Share Posted May 29, 2003 Ok current post limits can be seen here:Post Limits in FED2k DiscussionPlease note those numbers may changes as we test to see what an appopriate amount is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 i think it's a very bad idea that only Mods get to see the Dungeon. that will cause a lot of legit members to miss a lot of legit discussion. a few bad apples will get a thread Dungeonized, and then all the legit members miss-out and on all the hard-made, hard-thought posts of other legit members on account of those bad apples. that doesn't seem very fair. the Ichwan Bedwine system was much better. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Cube Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 I agree with Nav, you should re-do the ichwan bedwine member group again. If someone steps out of line, then you can take the privaledge away from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 maybe the mods will delete their posts instead of throwing it to the dungeon asap, but when a topic goes totally off topic and get's thrown down their I see no reason for people to get to see it any more, what will you use it for you can't reply anyway. I think it's good I can't think of anywhere else where members can see the deleted posts and I'm sure that if you REALLY wanted to see one of them Gob would send you a log on it. We lived without the dungeon once I think we will survive without it again, hopefully this will stop people from writing crap and forcing the threads to be deleted.All in all I think what has been done is a fair deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 I agree with Nav, you should re-do the ichwan bedwine member group again. If someone steps out of line, then you can take the privaledge away from them. I second that. Not that it'll do much good... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Cube Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 I see no reason for people to get to see it any morethe dungeon contains some of the most funniest threads! That only ended up in there because they went too far, instead of asking WHY we should be able to see it, instead maybe we should ask WHAT is the harm in seeing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Those threads are there for a reason ice_cube ;) If everyone could view the dungeon then there would be no point in keeping it there, might as well lock threads instead of sending them to the dungeon as everyone can read them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampigai Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 some of the crap I've seen here lately should never have seen the light of day.as I said before we have lived without it before I think we'll manage again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneezer3 Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 We are also going to be tougher on people who are pissing off the moderators. Rules for that will be released in the next few days, but the basic idea will be you piss us off we lower how much you can post.Gob don't that sound bad in a few ways? I mean the idea in general is a good one. But if a mod got mad there would be nothing a poster could do. Take for example TMA complaning. even Nema Fake got mad in a debate one time. I think you should include in that rule with the exception that there has to be good reason for it.With about 15 other moderators you gotta cansider stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Sneezer, annoyed/mad as in making rants like GUNWOUNDS did, do you think he deserves to go off advicing parents to hit their kids for the slightest mistake they make without hving his posts restricted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneezer3 Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Sneezer, annoyed/mad as in making rants like GUNWOUNDS did, do you think he deserves to go off advicing parents to hit their kids for the slightest mistake they make without hving his posts restricted?If he ment has in a rant no. But just plan annoying a mod maybe has in a debate or otherwise yes. Gob seemed to define it as if you make one mad. which does happen once ever full moon in debates of all kinds.I don't know if i missed something just ignore what i said. we'l have to get gob to define it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted May 29, 2003 Author Share Posted May 29, 2003 Its going to be a case-per-case basis sneezer. And ultimately its upto the global moderators (fed2k staff) and myself to decide. If you don't think we have good judgement well there isn't much I can say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 I agree, it doesnt matter whether anyone thinks they have good judgement or not. It's their site, and there is very little one of these people could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drahgoon Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 thanks for letting me post now. i am seriously sorry for spamming and it will never happen again. anyways. i think that the posting restrictions are a good idea. and btw is there any way you can get rid ov them ??? i hope there is cause some days i can post up to like 20 if i want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Cube Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 . anyways. i think that the posting restrictions are a good idea. and btw is there any way you can get rid ov them ??? i hope there is cause some days i can post up to like 20 if i want to.You think they are a good idea but you want to know how to remove them? A good idea is to never put yourself in the position to have a post restriction in the first place.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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