Ligic_Tha_Master Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Here by afternoon tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 I'd chose Chani over Irulan, since Chani was a skilled fighter, and wasn't twisted by the Bene Gesserit ways. Irulan is flawed in her Bene Gesserit training, and Paul married her for the wrong reason. Chani was his real concubine, even though Irulan held the title of 'wife' to Paul Atreides. The only reason Paul married her was to gain the throne through House Corrino, and later after the marriage, Irulan plotted against Paul with that facedancer Scytale. Paul never gave her any warmth, and when he died, it was only then that Irulan realized how much she loved him. ::) Chani was Paul's 'Sihaya' (the desert oasis/spring) as well. Irulan was nothing to Paul. ;DI'm currently on 'Children of Dune'. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Good points, and I just started CoD, is it any good? So far the twins and Alia are waiting for the arrival of Jessica (yes waaaaaay in the beginning). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 CoD is good. The best when Farad`n Corrino going on the stage. I found that is better than God Emperor, the Dune world is more like then when the story has started. In fourth, fifth and sixth part I had feeling that somethind has been lost...strange feeling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Dune does have a good feeling when you read it. Like a peaceful atmosphere some would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I only just got past that part of Jessica's arrival.It feels wierd to me. People just run off into the crowds and kill people. And Jessica hating Alia etc. it all feels wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 What it really comes down to is who you could imagine waking up next to after a hard night on the sand. Drinking spice beer and riding sandworms drunkenly. Ahh... the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted March 21, 2002 Author Share Posted March 21, 2002 Hmm currently reading Dune Mesyah ( Mohiam writes a message to the sisterhood) Irulan always loved Paul! he just ignored her all the time so the love became hatred and when he died it restored to love :'(...Chani or Irulan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Yes, Paul didn`t treat Irulan as good as she deserved. She was talented, wrote books about him, she got used to special attention, and Paul didn`t even allow her have baby with him...okay, he didn`t loved her but it still was his wife... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted March 21, 2002 Author Share Posted March 21, 2002 - ATREIDES IDIOLOGY- Hold your promises - suxxxx 8)Chani or Irulan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burseg_candor Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 i choose chani because if you love them the most who else matters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 But Paul did only marrie her for the throne. So once again Chani.Chani or Irulan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burseg_candor Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 irulan has nothing doesn't she Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Only immense wealth from her father and a lot of power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burseg_candor Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 love or powerhmm...ill take love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Well the power obviously had some hold on Paul, seeing as he married her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burseg_candor Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 but did he love her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 No. He married her becouse of policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Paul had both love and power. He loved Chani but Irulan was his right to sit upon the Golden Lion throne. Remember the Emperor was behind the plot to kill his father and destroy House Atreides, what better way to exact his revenge, strip the Emperor of this throne after beating him in battle and then marry his daughter (political marriage) but deny the Emperor's bloodline an heir to the throne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner154 Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 it was necessary to claim the throne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 So he used Irulan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Yes, he used Irulan and it was necessary to claim the throne this was the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander_Ordos Posted March 22, 2002 Author Share Posted March 22, 2002 Irulan WASN'T just powerfull and wealthy she was smart, BG, wrote books about Paul, loved Paul etc. When Paul ignored her all the time Irulan began to hate him ( every woman would do so ;)) so she began ploting against him... And Chani - she was but a good wife and lover :-/Irulan rulezzz :-*Chani or Irulan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Chani is smart also, and plotting against someone's life doesn't get overlooked because of a few books and brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 And not when the guy can see into the future either.Paul looking into the nexus "This is where she will put the knife in my back."Alexander Ordos [i know you do not care about the storyline so I am directing this toward Acriku.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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