Navaros Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 I have found that my late game Wall in Emp pretty-much unstoppable. Nothing can break through it. I want to see if anyone can figure out what this is, and/or if anyone has a more unstoppable mix of units.The scenario is: it's very late game, you have built as many buildings as you want and the enemy has not touched your economy at all. You know he has a ton of units just as you do. Neither of you has attacked each other or even scouted each other. You have been able to build as many units as you want, of whatever you like. Presuming this is the case, what units do you have that you think will be totally unstoppable? It can be as many different types of units as you like. But the challenge is: explain how you think your army of units will be impossible to counter by anything the enemy might throw at you. The more details your explanation has - the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Massed Minos, Fedaykin and Airdrones. Lots of airdrones take care of anything in the skies. Minos can destroy almost any unit on the ground easily with the exception of a few heavy armored units and the Inkvine which outranges them. For those kind of units (Inkvine, Devastator, etc.) fedaykin can be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted January 4, 2003 Author Share Posted January 4, 2003 not bad, but i'd argue that the very best Hark player would own you on the ground with that army because he'd box his Inkvines in. he won't *let* you touch them with Feds. believe me, i've had this done to me and i *know* how to micro. it is quite possible to make Inkvine un-touchable by Fedsfurthermore, excellent Hark players would probably run down most of your Feds, then own your Minos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Massed Minos, Fedaykin and Airdrones. Lots of airdrones take care of anything in the skies. Minos can destroy almost any unit on the ground easily with the exception of a few heavy armored units and the Inkvine which outranges them. For those kind of units (Inkvine, Devastator, etc.) fedaykin can be used.i'd have to agree. considering that the enemy wouldn't know you had the fedaykin. it's almost impossible for ordos to deal with that. if you manage your units right and have a nice mix of kobras and laser tanks with a few fremen snipers you could probably take it down but if you A) don't have snipers, or B) don't manage your units correctly; it's almost unstoppable. i'm sure emprworm has some idea though. he's gotten almost every strategy/bo/anything in emperor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 rogue1896 stop spamming my threads with advertisements. don't post in my threads. advertising is against the rules of fed2k and so is spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 how did i spam your thread and how did i advertise? i said that emprworm would probably give his idea. i didn't say anything that would be considered advertising. under the advice from ace i'm trying to put up with you. please don't start anything.and the reason i said ordos is b/c i am usually ordos in case any was wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 not bad, but i'd argue that the very best Hark player would own you on the ground with that army because he'd box his Inkvines in. he won't *let* you touch them with Feds. believe me, i've had this done to me and i *know* how to micro. it is quite possible to make Inkvine un-touchable by Fedsfurthermore, excellent Hark players would probably run down most of your Feds, then own your MinosWell, all those feds can call worms and destroy those inkvines even if they are well defended. That is if you manage to cover the feds well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 i've said it b4, if he has even one or two flame tanks he could take out those worms really quickly. it's actually surprising how fast a flame tank destroys a worm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Well, all those feds can call worms and destroy those inkvines even if they are well defended. That is if you manage to cover the feds well.But he would have to be pretty dumb to put his units on the sand. ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 if he didn't have any units on the sand then you could just siege him and take out the harvesters while still building up your force. eventually he'd run out of cash and you'd have more money. it'd be a bad move NOT to have things on the sand. like i said, just have a few flame tanks or a bunch of snipers out there to guard against worms. so using feds like that wouldn't be the most effective way, or at least i don't see it as the most effective way. but then my perspective is almost always from ordos in one way or another. if you keep the feds on guard while you move your minos slowly up then you coudl take out any kobras or infantry with the minos and use the feds on laser tanks or some other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Massed Minos, Fedaykin and Airdrones. Lots of airdrones take care of anything in the skies. Minos can destroy almost any unit on the ground easily with the exception of a few heavy armored units and the Inkvine which outranges them. For those kind of units (Inkvine, Devastator, etc.) fedaykin can be used.I haven't played for a long while, wel, i think you need about 7 worms, 8 carryalls + 8 devastators, 30 gunships, 8 missile tanks, 4 inkvines, 20 fremen warriors, yes it is very difficult to crack the combination of airdrones + fedaykins + minotaurs + warriors and all the other crap he has.It takes ALOT of micromanaging to manage all these units in the time the worms appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aox0m0xoa Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 sorry to go off topic, but navaros, youre a douche bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 WTF? Where did that come from?? That was WAY too offtopic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 not bad, but i'd argue that the very best Hark player would own you on the ground with that army because he'd box his Inkvines in. he won't *let* you touch them with Feds. believe me, i've had this done to me and i *know* how to micro. it is quite possible to make Inkvine un-touchable by Fedsfurthermore, excellent Hark players would probably run down most of your Feds, then own your MinosWell, all those feds can call worms and destroy those inkvines even if they are well defended. That is if you manage to cover the feds well.this is entirely dependent on the map. worms are a great solution *if* there is space to call/control them. however, on many maps there is *not* space to call/control them based on how narrow all the rock formations make the corridors on particular maps and also how the enemy sets up his units in a tight formation which blocks off all the choke points that Feds are likely to try to run through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aox0m0xoa Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 rogue1896 stop spamming my threads with advertisements. don't post in my threads. advertising is against the rules of fed2k and so is spamit was about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Ah ok :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted January 6, 2003 Author Share Posted January 6, 2003 stop spamming my threads please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphapy Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Massed Minos, Fedaykin and Airdrones. Lots of airdrones take care of anything in the skies. Minos can destroy almost any unit on the ground easily with the exception of a few heavy armored units and the Inkvine which outranges them. For those kind of units (Inkvine, Devastator, etc.) fedaykin can be used.if u were up against ordos i would through in some kindjal too ;Dand if he had fremen u may want to get some fremen snipers out there to protect your feds :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite47 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Devastators for any unit that comes in close as well as missle tanks for minos/kobras or other big units. Lots of inkvines & Buzz supported with fedaykin and sard elites. Nothing can beat with adps also. that is more effective of a wall then minos/drones and feds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Devastators for any unit that comes in close as well as missle tanks for minos/kobras or other big units. Lots of inkvines & Buzz supported with fedaykin and sard elites. Nothing can beat with adps also. that is more effective of a wall then minos/drones and feds.i thought an mino horde with every unit you can expect from a atreides camper :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fremen_Mentat Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 massed missle tanks, devs and flame tanks semm pretty unstopable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 massed missle tanks, devs and flame tanks semm pretty unstopable to me.its not though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 lol, hell noforgot the inkvines ;D always need them =). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Anyway, as a reply to the topic's name: there is NO most unstoppable late game rush, that's so nice about E:BFD, nothing is undefeatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 And how could something be more unstoppable then something else unstoppable? Maybe harder to stop, but that's it.How do you stop a Mino/Fedaykin horde if you're Ordos? Deviators ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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