Mad Rhetoric Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Reply who you think is a better sub-house,but don't flame each other.Also,you can only pick ONE of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 There's no such thing as "better subhouse".Besides Tleilaxu, all the rest are useful and powerful in different ways.If you ask me if I could only use 1 house out of Fremen and Sardukar, I'll probably choose ...... don't know, both is as good. If all 4 of the units are my standard units, I WILL win every battle without any vehicles (besides MCV, Harvester and Carryall) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rhetoric Posted October 5, 2002 Author Share Posted October 5, 2002 I meant which one do you think is more effective for offensive,defensive,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 The Fremen are perfect for defense while the Sardaukar does a better job in offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 But the Fremen are only good in active defense.While the Sardaukar can stand on their post and destroying all minor unitsThough I prefer Fremen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baronvonflames Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 yeah timenn that for sure but i like the sards better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 But the Fremen are only good in active defense.While the Sardaukar can stand on their post and destroying all minor unitsThough I prefer FremenYes, the Fredaykins require more of your attention just like the Laser tanks. And they are DEADLY in close-quarter combats when i small groups about 5 would be an appropriate number.While the Sardaukars are just becoming effective when they're in group more than 5. And I hate those long range artillery weapons i.e Minotaurus. But 5 Elites will take on any ONE unit easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 i think the fremen are better because they are undectectable esp. in campaign cause no one knows you have them. i prefer fremen cause they train faster, are cheap, and their building is cheaper and doesnt have any power requirements.though i like sardukar for looks better, and in stacks of five they are good against any inf, although stacks of 5 fremen warriors owns them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Well that might be the case when 1 v 1, but when it comes being a better overall unit, the Warrior has nothing to match besides the stealth capability to keep it alive.Both has its own use, Fremens are for ambushes and defence, they particularly effective against any infantry which sneaked in your base. The Fredaykin is a devastating defensive unit against NIAB's.Sardaukars are basically like the ultimate multipurpose unit. But the Sardaukar Elite aren't recommended against infantry, so a mixture of Imperial Sardaukars and their Elite force are recommended. Besides against a well micromanaged Fremen Warrior, 4 Sardaukar Elites will truly own ANY unit in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 The Sardaukar could beat any of the houses in any of the missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baronvonflames Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 elites will not own 4 shielded units but if they are apcs or deviators, the elites will have cost less overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 its acually better to sacrafice a sard elite for a sheilded unit.... unless it has any chevrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rhetoric Posted October 7, 2002 Author Share Posted October 7, 2002 Thanks for the opinions!Sorry if I didn't amke it clear enough... :P :P :P ::) ::) ;) ;D :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 elites will not own 4 shielded units but if they are apcs or deviators, the elites will have cost less overallMost shielded units have weak armor and weak attacks against infantry, so if its against shielded units, the Elite force is not recommended because the Imperial Sardaukar will do the job without deaths.When its comes to anti-infantry, the Fremen Warrior are somewhat more superior than the Imperial Sardaukars.If the Fremen Warrior is micromanaged well enough, even the Imperial Sardaukar Elite- the one-man-army won't stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Interesting tidbit (probably known already, though): if a mixed batch of Sardaukar is confronted with a shielded unit, it is possible with careful micromanagement to use the 'troopers' (regular Sardaukar) to down the shields so the 'officers' (Sardaukar elite) can then fire on it safely. Not the sort of micromanagement you want to find yourself doing often, but it might prove handy for training those elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I prefer the fremen cos:Fremen warriors are excelptional against infantry. You take one, and go snipe all enemy's infantry men (if there are minos or kobras near, or other snipers, this is difficult. If your enemy is hark however, then it's a great tactic).Fedaykin can assume any role and do it succesfully. You may use them to support your regular forces or launch a stealthy attack.Worm riders are the best way to get the enemy's harveys as well as all those units guarding the harveys out in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 sardukar are mutch better asforstrongereasier for them to kill have better hut that fremen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Sardaukar aren't stealthy and can't ride worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Fremen are good support units, they can kill enemy units in seconds.Sardaukar are for fun, they're fast and have powerfull armour, its fun to slowly kill your enemy with these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 you don't need worms and anyway thery are vunrable while thumpin' you could eaily pick em off withsnipermortarany other long rangewithout you knowing plus sardukar are at least a bit decent against tanks and light viecles, also they make very good suicide deviator/apc/lazr tnk killers well if enemy has chevrons and mebee chevroned peepol inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 Yeah, but you don't want to check the map every second to see a Fedaykin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 To me it depends on what house I am fighting against. against Ordos I would have used Fremen, cos laser sardauk only screws up stuff with the shield. against atreides I would use Sardaukar.Overall I like Sardaukar the most, cos their notstealthed and need to be controlled all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 [quote author=Supreme Bashar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Well I meant not comtroll, just something screwed up iwth the keyboard or something. if you need time then sardaukar is what you need. the fremen you have to run around firing all the time, and controll it. the sardaukars fire automaticly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 [quote author=Supreme Bashar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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