Mahdi Posted October 16, 2001 Share Posted October 16, 2001 We can still speculate about the reasons until The Butlerian Jihad series hits the shelves.Then you'll only need to stop if you consider Anderson and Herberts books canon, adn there awre wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy to many continuity flaws for me to consider them canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted October 16, 2001 Share Posted October 16, 2001 Well, what do a know? That was my 200th regestered post. I can only imagine how many I'd have if I hadn'y posted as a guest for two years... btw, anyone knw the correct spelling of politicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted October 16, 2001 Share Posted October 16, 2001 First all probably way more posts than any of us except maybe Gob. Second, I think that is the right spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobalopper Posted October 16, 2001 Share Posted October 16, 2001 I'm not even counting all my old posts from the real old board though. :)If you count those even Davo has lots of posts. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordos45 Posted October 16, 2001 Share Posted October 16, 2001 Oh, I did not know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted October 17, 2001 Share Posted October 17, 2001 Oh yeah, I can't forget the four I posted on the real old board...That was the most confusing forum ever devised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro Posted October 17, 2001 Share Posted October 17, 2001 The correct spell is abnormaliarcheaterthieves or something similiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timsvs Posted October 18, 2001 Share Posted October 18, 2001 and when is that suppose to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted October 19, 2001 Share Posted October 19, 2001 O.k. back to the subject. No, Mahdi I agree with you about the prequels continuity with the rest of the Dune series. I do not consider them canon either but I love Dune. What is a fanatic to do?Signed a very frustrated Fedaykin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 20, 2001 Share Posted October 20, 2001 Well... FH's books are holy and unquestionable, but BH/KjA series are also guideline - type stuff, subject to the agreement and jurisdiction of FH's series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabeta4000 Posted October 21, 2001 Share Posted October 21, 2001 On empero when it shows kaitan you actually see earth. Maybe it got renamed or perhaps destroyed and rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Guerrilla Posted October 21, 2001 Share Posted October 21, 2001 Yeah Herbert/Anderson do not have the writing style of Herbert Senior but they do ask to see it from their point of view. I look forward to the Butlerian Jihad and all that could be involed in the series. I mean like the beginings of the Three Schools after the "thinking machines" destruction by the jihad. The creation of the Guild and maybe the beginings of spice additiction in the imperium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 22, 2001 Share Posted October 22, 2001 To aB: Read the preludes; Kaitain cannot have been earth, as the climate is artificial. Besides, Emperor is hardly a reliable source for proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted October 22, 2001 Share Posted October 22, 2001 Alphabeta4000 also the games should not be used as reference examples cause they do no follow the story line as Herbert wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fthg42 Posted November 23, 2001 Share Posted November 23, 2001 Well, House Atreides was decended from the Greek House of Atreus, wasn't it?Maybe something in their history offers us a clue on what happened to Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilamobster13 Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 maybe the environment was so screwed on earth that the human race had to spread, and after 1000's upon 1000's of years, poeple just forgot about it. maybe dune is a forgotten earth that has been destroyed, and the original creatures of earth just died or adapted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 Well... the only thing relevant is the very curse of House Atreus, which was (we think) lifted when Orestes killed Clytemnestra and Aegisthus. But it's not certain. As to the final suggestion, it seems that this has happened a lot in the Dune Universe (eg Salusa Secundus), so I wouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 Just some comments about earth in the Dune books ;doesn't the Benne Gesserit have a Van Goch in one of the rooms, I belive it was the room of Darwi ( or Dar&Tar ) in Chapterhouse. It was enhanced with a sensor from Ix in the left lower corner.And in God Emperor of Dune their ar as I recall two clear reflections to earth, or as Leto II sometimes calls it "old Terra". ( don't they use that in Chapterhouse as well ? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 Jet even more remarks ?!In God Emperor of Dune Leto II tries to say that the Atreides in some way originate from earth.Just as in P.131 in God emperor of Dune, in all the books you can see that some people know stories from and about earth but they ( the perones who "know" earth ) also make verry clear that other people don't know this ( importand ) place.( just as background info about myself, I'm a university student in philosophy, and not a lot of professors like this, but I have an interrest in the ( fictive ) God Emperor. That's to explain my enthousiasme at answering,... . ) Cheers, :) :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fthg42 Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 Yeah, (and I'm pretty sure I'm repeating people when I say this) Leto II and Paul, I think, knows about Earth's history, e.g. Hitler.And I think that they mention other things about Earth that haven't happened yet, that is, past 2001.Just a comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilamobster13 Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 maybe when he said the world was destroyed, he meant the world AS IT WAS. maybe that is why they call earth as WE KNOW IT old terra, because dune is what could be called new terra, while still being the same planet, so it would still be terra, just completely different. get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted November 27, 2001 Author Share Posted November 27, 2001 no not realy, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 I get it, but it seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 I also get it. And however unlikly it is, if it's true, what a beautiful irony :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilamobster13 Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 i guess i shouldve combined both posts and worded it better. and ex, how do you not get it and everyone else does? at least lie. ::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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