Ghosty_Square Posted October 26, 2002 Posted October 26, 2002 I underestimate sards??!! Me, who uses them in every single skirmish I play?? LOLBut I thought this topic was which subhouse is stronger (fremen or sards). And, in my opinion, the fremen are stronger.
ken124578 Posted October 26, 2002 Posted October 26, 2002 The fremen are more useful, sardaukar are more powerful.Btw ghosty, you probably camp in your base and build 64 sardaukar ::) ;D :D
Elite47 Posted October 27, 2002 Posted October 27, 2002 ok feds are better because only 1 fedaykin can do some damage... 1 sard or sard elite cannot do anything on its own. PLus they ride worms which is great and they wont get picked off if you guard them with other units. the fremen sniper is awesome for getting rid of any infantry you need dealt with.
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 29, 2002 Posted October 29, 2002 the sardaukar is better than fremen sniper to take out infantry
VigilVirus Posted October 29, 2002 Posted October 29, 2002 Yep, true. Sards are much more effective when you are aginst a bunch of infantry, but when you're up against a couple, fremen is more effective.
Terror Posted October 29, 2002 Posted October 29, 2002 Fremen are harder to use, more micro. They can do lot's of damage and their stealh can help a lot. Sards are easier to use though. They too have a long range and normal sards are quite effective vs. light/medium armored units also. Elite's are very effective vs. Heavy armored and air units. And their anti infantry is harder to use than the normals sards. but they are not less effective in that way.Fremen are probably better in the hands of experts, but in my clumsy hands i prefer sard's 8)
Anathema Posted October 30, 2002 Posted October 30, 2002 A single mino with some scouts near it can take out a whole bunch of fremen, sniper or fed. But a sardaukar elite can withstand a mino salvo.
VigilVirus Posted October 30, 2002 Posted October 30, 2002 Yeah, but feds can take out a mino easily if they sneak up from behind and scouts are very easily take out with any kind of unit.
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted October 31, 2002 Posted October 31, 2002 SArds are better for me. But even if I play with them more often, I sometimes change my mind. I think that I prefer them becouse normal sards are better than normal fremen warriors. Feds are great, cos you can win a lot with them. But if you play Atreides, you have snipers and fremen warrior is like experienced sniper.When enemy sends infantry, sards are better for sure and are better for destroying base (not buildings but last defence).(why they haven`t normal sards and feds in one..? )
Terror Posted October 31, 2002 Posted October 31, 2002 hmmm better vs. infantry? i don't know, but definetly better vs. vehicles.
Inoculator9 Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 I think when the Sardaukar and Fremen were made they intended for there to be a balance.Sardaukar Elite = Anti-VehicleFedykin = Anti-VehicleSardaukar = Anti-InfantryFremen Warrior = Anti-InfantryI prefer the Sardaukar because the Sardaukar Elite can shoot at air units. And the standard Sardaukar is pretty effective against tanks aswell. The Fremen Warrior has better range then the Sardaukar, and are stealthed. This is the balance.
Anathema Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Hmmm....is the airdrone fast enough to outrun rockets fired by the Ordos AA trooper? If yes, the Elite Sardaukar would be kick ass because the laser is instant hit.
Inoculator9 Posted November 3, 2002 Posted November 3, 2002 Exactly. The Atreides Air Drone can outrun any missile if you time it correctly.
Ghosty_Square Posted November 3, 2002 Posted November 3, 2002 But the Air Drone used to be even faster than this. A !@#$ patch (1.7 or 1.8) made it slower and turned me into an Ordos player.
Inoculator9 Posted November 3, 2002 Posted November 3, 2002 The Air Drone was to powerful. It could take out air units easily. You build three or four, send them into any enemy base let them shoot, take them out of enemy range, repeat, and no damage. I think that the Air Drone was a bit unfair, but the Atreides were supposed to have the most powerful air force.
Oper90 Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 The Air Drone was to powerful. It could take out air units easily. You build three or four, send them into any enemy base let them shoot, take them out of enemy range, repeat, and no damage. I think that the Air Drone was a bit unfair, but the Atreides were supposed to have the most powerful air force.My only grip about the Air Drone is that they don't self heal when they get 'elite' status.
Terror Posted November 4, 2002 Posted November 4, 2002 yeah, but other than that. those things can only be countered if you have a good AA force scattered all over the place :( besides, they don't look too good and they fly incredibly stupid, they don't even go into a dogfight
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 I think that the sardaukars should look more like the sardaukars in the mini series, because they have a so cool hat. I which I had one o fthose
Ghosty_Square Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 Yep, the sards in the movie were much better, those in the mini series just ridiculous.
Terror Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 nah it wasn't that bad, i prefer miniseries over movie. but i must say that the sardaukar in Emperor look a bit more sturdy
Terror Posted November 7, 2002 Posted November 7, 2002 hmmm, he does tell us his point though... he seems to know :-Ok, let's do a test...."Kennedy was murdered by a person nicknamed GoldEagle"Now what's your answer?(ok guys, when he says I know we get him and pull his limbs off, k?)
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 In the movie and the games the sardaukars have too much armor, and that sucks. that shows that the sardaukars are only good in combat becauser they are well equipt. but they are good soldier without armor
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