technocrat Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 knives are over used ???...why don't everyone ware armors :P so knives does not go though.(armor don't stop gun well, but shield does) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Using Shields on Arrakis? You got to be kidding, unless you want to have a nice visit in the long body of the worm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Using Shields on Arrakis? You got to be kidding, unless you want to have a nice visit in the long body of the worm. He said armor not shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHJ BV Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 yeah, regular armor should protect you against knives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technocrat Posted December 5, 2002 Author Share Posted December 5, 2002 I guess Dune hardcores will say that they banned armor as well, since they already banned just about anything useful ... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usul Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 You wouldn't wear armour and a sheild because of the fatigue involved. A shield won't let oxygen in so you only have a limited amount of time in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Harkonnen troops do wear armor. But the Fremen despise that, it makes them slow and vulnerable in the desert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Yeah and in armor you would be under a greater threat from guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technocrat Posted December 5, 2002 Author Share Posted December 5, 2002 Yeah and in armor you would be under a greater threat from gunswell, but you have shields against guns, so you only need to worry about knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 Yeah and in armor you would be under a greater threat from gunswell, but you have shields against guns, so you only need to worry about knife.you can't wear shields on arrakis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 you can where shields on arrakis. even if it were on the icecaps.althought it attracts worms. and they had shields around the "keep" or whatever it is called where Atreides lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted December 5, 2002 Share Posted December 5, 2002 you can where shields on arrakis. even if it were on the icecaps.althought it attracts worms. and they had shields around the "keep" or whatever it is called where Atreides lived.Yes, you can have shields on rock syrface, but if you wear shields in the desert it is suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSPlug Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Too heavy and you'll not have enough oxygen...this will make you put down your shield more frequently, and thus more vurlunable. If you've read the "House Harkonnen" novel you'll know how tiring it would be.And Usul I think shield does let oxygen in, only the rate is too slow compared to your intake rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 I've read someplace that the knives in the dune univerese have somekind of emproved cutting egde, so it would go right trough any kind of armor, and you know whats even better the crys have that natrualy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 That is true, the teeth of the sandworm is so sharp it can cut through metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted December 6, 2002 Share Posted December 6, 2002 Physical armour isn't always easy or practical to carry around. But I admit, it should be better and lighter by 10,191. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 yes, and it should definetly be able to stop any knife... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Why cant there be any hover troops that throw knifes or shoot arrows?LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 why use knives if you can have swords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 doesn't the flechette pistol shoot arrows??but don't you guys remember in House Harkonenn, when Duncan was on Ginaz and he weared that heavy armor shit, he didn't manage to take out any of the others with no armor, cos they were faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 well, speed may be good and all.. but in medieval times they also used armor and shields and they had hundreds of years of experience so i think they know what was effective and what isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Worf Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 They use knives because it penetrates personal shields unlike fast moving projectiles or lasers, and it makes for different storytelling. You get tired of reading about blow-your-head-off laser guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 yes but if you use a metal shield and metal armor you can hardly be penetrated by those knives and if you have a sword you can just kill them all with ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Sardaukar were unequaled so wouldn't need any protection except a holtzman shield, as they could outfight anybody in hand to hand combat. Armor was unnecessary for them. That was, until they stould against the fremen :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Sardaukar were unequaled so wouldn't need any protection except a holtzman shield, as they could outfight anybody in hand to hand combat. Armor was unnecessary for them. That was, until they stould against the fremen :)pff piece of crap, if i had an armor that stops knives i would kill a sardaukar myself.. he may have the first strike but mine will hurt as well... and he won't even pierce my armor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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