Devastator_Mech Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 The Saboteurs are like the suicide terrorist, rushing towards the target without fear of anything.But I've played so long on WOL, and I find no one have ever used this unit on me.Does anyone ever use this unit?I find it almost impossible to get everything out of them, Saboteur drop? Wouldn't engineer be better? Mass produce them? Killing one mean killing the whole group. No idea how could someone use them effectively, but I'm more than happy if someone could post some of their strategies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 exactly, ixian infiltrators or engeneers do the job better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 7, 2002 Author Share Posted October 7, 2002 Although the Ixian Infiltrators are more superior than the Saboteur, but once they're revealed by anything, their destiny would be the same. Which isn't hard at all if you scatter enough scouts near the entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hmm, it's mostly the Saboteur out of the EITS I use. But that's not using the Saboteur apart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 9, 2002 Author Share Posted October 9, 2002 Honestly, EITS only worth half its original price.If spotted early, this unit is a goner. If against Harkonnen, even this unit does get in the base and deploys in the a perfect postion, the Saboteur won't have a chance to do its job beside driving the plane and die before landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Hmm, when you don't have enough AA, and I mean that you must have LOTS of AA when you want to counter this:Build 10 EITS, and then you can blow up the conyard + factory at least!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 9, 2002 Author Share Posted October 9, 2002 Hmm, when you don't have enough AA, and I mean that you must have LOTS of AA when you want to counter this:Build 10 EITS, and then you can blow up the conyard + factory at least!.It might work in the 1st 10 mins of the game, but you'll know what you'll need to sacrifice.10 EITS = 1 Conyard + Warfactory?1st, $20000 + heaps of time doesn't worth 1 Conyard + Warfactory.2nd, no, don't even dream you'll be able to scratch my buildings with it.1 EITS = $20001 Missile = $1200 or 1 ADP = $1500 or 10 Troopers = $900 or even a desvatator = $1750 !!2 Mongoose = $1600 or 2 Air Drone = $16002 AA mine = $1200 or 10 AAtrooper = $1000ALL the group of units or single unit cost less than the EITS but will destroying it in in I'll say virtually "no time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 But they won't destroy the entire groupThe first ones will catch all the fire.And don't forget the speed of the EITS, and they don't slow down if they aren't hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 I think the topic was about the saboteur himself, not the eits.I haven't seen anyone using it either (apart the comp). If some1 ever managed to use it effectively however, it could be quite devastating (once, I accidentally deployed one among 4 dust scouts, and all dust scouts died!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Ok, sorryYes, maybe we forgot about the use against units. Because that is something Engineers can't do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 yeah that's right... but they're just so vulnerable to anti infantry fire from units like mino's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 i dont know about you guys, but i would perfer to use them in groups of 3-5...i would spread them out and when an oncoming enemy group is walking down to my base, i would send the sabotaurs from different directions. Usually, at least 1 or 2 will get in and wipe out most of the infantry with an addition of lightly damaging the vehicles in the group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Sabateurs are useless by themselves, the only sabateur that IS useful is the one of the EITS, ofcource only when the sabateur is dropped direcly on top of an building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 well, anyways, dont use em...unless your playing around with your enemy...otherwise they're just a waste of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Saboteurs rank right behind the Contaminator as a unit with no viable use whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 IMO saboteurs are effective only against comp. Though they are not needed for victory, they are another funny way to kill the dumb ai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Sabos. are useless but the EITS makes them look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Saboteurs are fun, but they are hardly effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Especially seing as you can get 3.3 saboteurs for every one Infiltrator.Ever noticed that infiltrators are WAY more effective than sabotaurs? ...yeah thats what i thought. Just dont bother using them, houses have the useless people...atredies sandbike & Light infantry/Ordos AAmines and sabotaurs/hark...dont really got one for hark yet..see them all useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 well, IMHO sabeuteurs are only good against AI as if one gets killed the rest go too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty_Square Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 You can order them to scatter by pressing X. Or you can send them in one by one. This way, they won't die all at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Minotaurs SUCK when alone, atreides can kill then with sonics (minotaurs fire on the carryall) harkonen can kill them with devastators/adp's and for the ordos.. worms, this can be used against any House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Especially seing as you can get 3.3 saboteurs for every one Infiltrator./hark...dont really got one for hark yet..see them all usefulwell, their light inf arent too good, they arent good as atr light inf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezertfish Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 I rarely play ordos, but when i do, i find the APC to be most useful for AA purposes. One or two saboteurs in each APC makes them decent against Infantry. Plus if you drop an APC with other units in the enemy base, and you are too cheap to add engineers/sard/fremen, a sab or two could help you along.(so could mortars, but hey, i'm tryin to include my suicidal friends here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 well, their light inf arent too good, they arent good as atr light inf.ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The Harkonen light infantry is the most stronger then its 'cousin' the Atreidse light infantry. And besides, why does Atreides need light infantry anyway? they are useless for rushes because harkonen units and ordos units own the Atreides light infantry and for anti scout defences they suck as wel, snipers are more usefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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