IxianMace Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 I see lots of games where people have superweapons off all the time. I was just why people hate it so much. It takes a lot away from the possible strategies that are involved in the game. Do people just find it annoying, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 I find it annoying, but I wouldn't turn them off. Only the Death Hand does actual damage, and it's really very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Compared to the SW's in RA2, Emperor's supers aren't much at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Yeah. I ALWAYS turn them off in RA2. Nothin' like a Nuke to ruin your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Compared to the SW's in RA2, Emperor's supers aren't much at all...Exactly, the Nuke Attack or Weather Storm in RA2 will take out half your base while the Death Hand will only take out a couple of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Yes, but superweapons aren't strategy. They are only annoying. And it will only result a superweapon war.And the superweapons in RA were ridicalously strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Superweapons aren't that big of a deal in Emperor because if a player gets them in the early game he's dead dead dead. The only exception to this is if he has already killed you, in which case the Superweapons he makes in the early game are irrelevant anyhow.The Deathhand is way overpowered compared to the other Superweapons though.Emperor is mostly newbies with no skill now, so they fear SW for no good reason. Just like they only ever play on 30k. They have very little understanding of Emperor gameplay, so they fear Superweapons. In reality, Superweapons will almost never cause one player to beat another. They are a very small factor in Emperor gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 Yeah, but they can mess up my defenses, and then I have to orgaaaaniiiizeeee theeeem aaagaaaaiin ;D = Annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveside Posted September 1, 2002 Share Posted September 1, 2002 i dont mind them, although the hawkstrike is annoyin sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted September 2, 2002 Author Share Posted September 2, 2002 Yes, but superweapons aren't strategy. They are only annoying. You don't think Superweapons have any strategy to offer to gameplay? Ever tried using a Hawkstrike on enemy harvesters and carryalls, or using it on Gunship rushes and Air Drone rushes? Ever tried using the Death Hand to take out the power before you do something like a Devastator drop? Ever tried using the Hawk Strike or Chaos Lightning as a precursor to an attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Well infact, if the SW is used well, it could cause serious damage is combine with conventional forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Yeah, but it is just 2 clicks with a mouse button. I don't call that a strategy. It's just lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 but, if you get ready to rush, then launch a death hand, that is some strategy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotazoOm Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Indeed i never use Sw's in my games!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Well using SW isn't just pressing 2 buttons, you need to have sufficent funds at first, then wait till its built without being defeatd, then wait for atleast 5 min and protect it during this time(about, depends on the game speed), and then you could say press press 2 buttons. Forgot to mention the price tag and you cannot build any other structure while building the SW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Well, that's the same as building any other building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted September 4, 2002 Author Share Posted September 4, 2002 Yes but I think Devastator_Mech means that the palace will be a high priority target because it enables a superweapon to be used, therefore if the enemy sees it, they'll want to get rid of it as soon as possible. So the way the building is built might be the same, but the way it is seen and operates, can be much different than any 'other' building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Well, that's the same as building any other buildingExactly as what IxianMace said. Also, it costs and take much more power than ony other structure, making it hard maintain it without a sufficient economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Yes, but that isn't making the Superweapon itself a strategy. Only having that building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Do you need strategy to maintain and protect a building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 wall it in from engineers...add some turrets round it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Yes ofcourse! But read my posts! I said that maintaining the building might be strategy, but not using the superweapon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Well you need a strategy in the first place before you could even use it, what other "unit" is as hard to obtain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Strategy is more then just 'using' a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 5, 2002 Share Posted September 5, 2002 Exactly, so you do need strategy to use the SW, its just that you didn't notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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