eccp19 Posted June 23, 2002 Share Posted June 23, 2002 Question applies to ordos commanders :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted June 23, 2002 Share Posted June 23, 2002 Question applies to ordos commanders :PDo not let them get swarms of Minos. That's the main benchmark I use to determine whether or not I am going to win a game. If I am playing Ordos or Hark, and I have swarms of Minos in my Spice, and another swarm festering outside of a Factory, along with Fremen and Sards, and my economy is in top-top shape at that point, 95% of the time I will win the game after that point. Best way to stop swarms of Minos is to prevent it from happening. If it does happen and you don't have an equal swarm of Minos, abandon all hope because if you are playing a good player, you're screwed. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted June 23, 2002 Share Posted June 23, 2002 shoot all the minos untill they stop moving...some eites do nicly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 well...first if always check enemy base. if they're building sum mino's and u have a palace, use ur chaos lightning. if u dunt hae a palace then continually attack them wif laser tanks and such before they start building an army. also aim for they're economy wif advanced caryalls and and such. i always continually attack wif EITS's through the entire time to maybe slow em down. heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo_I Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 YOu need to be more specific on your question. But in case you don't want to restate i'll give a general answer.If the minos are already built:If they are moving, the best way to kill them is laser tanks and freemen. Make sure the laser tanks keep moving as laser tanks automatically target while moving. Fredaykin can deploy and call a worm which can kill many minos at onceif they are stationary, and NOT in your spice field, your best bet is to continually kill his/her economy with fast laser tank attacks on harvestors, you could also have freemen on "guard" so that when he/her moves minos to intercept the freemen take them out one by one. As for killing the minos that are already built see aboveIf they are stationary, and outside of your base, you should start building kobra tanks which you keep at the top of your base, you should start building stealth units (freemen, ix bombs, etc) and you should be prepared to build laser turrents. The best thing to do is to keep the kobras higher up the land mass than normal, and then draw the minos in by hit and run tatics (since a mino on the run can't fire worth a crap). This all assumes you have economy. If you don't have economy, and you don't have enough units, then i would suggest you make an advanced caryall, an ordos apc, engineers, and try to capture the enemy's buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo_I Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 *since i'm bored*another way of getting rid of them is to pick one up with an advanced caryall, and then move it to your base in which you have a few AA troopers that kill it. Only thing is when you say HOARD of minos, that could mean anywhere's between 4 and 30. If there are 3 or four or more minos they will kill your advanced caryalls as well as the unit that the caryall was picking up (the mino). So if you got the money, you can advanced caryall them to death, if no money see my previous post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Did you know that kobra has lesser range than Minos...Thats unfair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo_I Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Did you know that kobra has lesser range than Minos...Thats unfair...Yes, BUT - if a mino is moving his range is dramatically effected. A stationary kobra might not kill a moving mino on it's own, but two will for sure. Also, a moving minos firing rate is dramatically effected, and the accuracy as well. This is why when people ask about mino attacks i allways say to keep the minos highlighted and be ready to hit the "S" key which stops them. A stopped mino is a good mino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navaros Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Did you know that kobra has lesser range than Minos...Thats unfair...I hear someone say that the Kobra has about 4 times more armor than the Mino. I don't know if it's quite that high, but the Kobra DOES have a whole heck of a lot more armor than the Mino. *THAT'S* unfair since the Ordos starting units can *easily* eat through the starting units of any other House and earn a guranteed win in QM if the other player does not quit the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Did you know that kobra has lesser range than Minos...Thats unfair...may have lesser range but it's got faster rate of fire(mino's shoot 4 rounds at a time but it takes time to reload), auto repair, and it's more heavily armored, isn't that a lil bit unfair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksam Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 hmm...each support unit have their advantage.now dont talk about fair or not.how about mino and kindjal work togeter?if u near the mino...kindjal kill u..if u out of range of mino..they fire u..agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 man, i wanna play an all out total warfare map, with 9 players, 3 players allied for each house, all out massed WAR!! i wonder who would win....that was totally off topic.... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Did you know that kobra has lesser range than Minos...Thats unfair...That isn't true, they have the same bullet KobraHowitzer_B (deployed Kobra). And the bullet has the range-parameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 man, i wanna play an all out total warfare map, with 9 players,I'm not sure you can have that many players. Even with a LAN set up, the maximum you have is 8 as far as I can remember... If only there could be more than 4 players at a time in 1 game on the net... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Hmm, this topic isn't about that subject, he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 That isn't true, they have the same bullet KobraHowitzer_B (deployed Kobra). And the bullet has the range-parameter.You may have right here... But when I and Vidiware played, my mino stood there and kicked Vidiwares cobra so hard he could feel it and had to move it ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Are you sure you were on the same groubd, and not other advanatages/disadvantages. And which one was the attacker, that all may cause such things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 We were standing on each side of the bridge... i accidentaly moved my mino alittle too close and it started ripping Vidi's cobra to shreds...None of the units had any of the red arrows in front of it... did i mention all his mortar infantry was made into 100 small snacksy pieces each by the same minotaur before it left for its own safety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 It should have the same range, but there can be some bugs in guard mode parameters etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 I think u just said the right answer ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Personaly I think that korbras work well against minos if they have hight advantaged. Las tanks dont work well in my opinion becouse if they take a little damage they lose speed by alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Bullcrap !!A Kobra like has half the firepower of a Minotaurus and i'll say 4/5 of its armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 yes 4/5 of it's armourbut the kobra and mino have exact same bullet and warhead wich means they have the exact same dmg. But kobra better cuz of height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 yes 4/5 of it's armourbut the kobra and mino have exact same bullet and warhead wich means they have the exact same dmg. But kobra better cuz of height.But unfortunately, the Kobra needs to deploy inorder to get the advantage, and deploying will take time. From advantage, this would lead to misadvantage.In other words, Kobra would word much better in defence than offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Eagle25 Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 ahh..better on defense.But i still have a few in all my attack groups ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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