Minotaurus versus Devastator: who'd win?

[Terror]

troopers and kindjals are great vs. deva

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

To beat deva you must have more than one unit. Deva will be busy kill one of them and other units, if they have good weapon can shot out deva. But imagine 10 deva waiting for enemy attack. Even units with good weapon haven`t chance. I usually early build startport to make deva defence.

[Caid Ivik]

You always have stored 25 000 credits for this, haven't you? I think you've never played against Sardaukar user. And attack with 10 devastators - it's impossible. While they came everyone will not only build enough defenses, but also enough assault power to beat your base. Devastator is unusable without carryall, and 10 carryalls is another 28 000. And also, you can't buy 10 units of one type in Starport.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Actually, this one I use in campaign, not in single or multiplayer. And I said about deva DEFENCE not about deva attack, I know its too slow to make rush with it.

[Sardauker-Kirov]

And actualy Caid. I maked 10 Deva's once (On multiplayer), with 5 Adv carryall's and Since you cant choose multiple loaded Adv carryall. I maked group's, I played the 10 deva's in the base, (Although a few got shot down )

Well. I destroyed the base litteraly in 30 seconds.

Deva's are always useless without Adv carryall unless if they defense like Gunseng said. And if they camp at a spice field.

[IxianMace]

Unless you can build Devastators really quickly and drop them in early in the game, they're quite useless. The experienced human player will always make sure he/she has tight air defences, especially against the Harkonnen (Devastator drop, Gunship rush), so chances are the Devastator won't get a chance to set down where it can do some damage.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

I rarely put deva to enemy base, I usually use them in defence. To enemy base I send missiles and assaults and if I`m with Ix, infiltrators. But on small maps you could send devas without ACs but its sometimes risky if in enemy base is lot of long range units.

[Aribites]

I think that minotaurases are much better in defence, as if you have a decent sized force of them, evenly distributed around your base, they can bracket any incoming enemy troops with fire.

[Timenn]

Their rotation is too slow

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

But devas around your base can too kill every incoming unit. This is that most expensive units are best in defence, but kobra is weakest and deva is slowest but has best fire.

[IxianMace]

I've noticed that Devastators are not that good against aircraft sometimes. Ever noticed how slowly the missile launcher on it's shoulder turns? Unless the launcher is pointing in the direction of the enemy unit as soon as the unit gets in range, the time that it takes for missile turret to rotate and fire will mean that the enemy will have a little more time to do something, (like drop a APC with engineers into your base via Advanced Carryall, etc.) I like to use Devastators as a feint. What you do is attack their main defence line with them. This draws a heck of a lot of attention, and when the enemy is busy worrying about destroying the Devastators, you could sneak into their base with something else.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Preety good strategy...with infiltrators...

I like put devas with missiles in group and then enemy can attack with normal units and with air units and lose with them. Actually I found that troops can be more annoying than ornithopter when I have devas with missiles...cos troops are in group. But it not work very well if enemy has Tleilaxu, devas and missiles are not good to shot to each other and I don`t like running with engineers around.

[paul_of_arrakis]

uh huh

[Shocktroop-elite]

U People R REALLY REALLY DUMB the devastator would easily kick its sorry little A**. think about it with its 2 plasma guns AND its missile launcher, no compotistion

Oh by the way Haikonnen kicks!!!!

[Terror]

ok.. please people... don't type such long messages.... i fall a sleep when reading half of them  :-[

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Nobody said here devastator is weak :O

But enough, cos Terror will go mad or fall asleep and we won`t be able to wake him up

[Terror]

Thank you Gunseng :-)

[Aribites]

Yeh, i don't think that the Deva is slow and weak, but I do think that the Minotaurus could beat it.   This is because the Minotaurus can fire and then move before being fired upon in return...................

[Timenn]

Damn I miss that 'q'-trick :'(, otherwise, the hit 'n run would be alot better...

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

But deva has better armor, when mino fire at deva once deva won`t be destroyed and if deva fire once, it might.

[cyberotte]

ok why even use a minos against a deva? its like using ordos chemical troopers to kill a machine gun post. use a sonic tank or place a adv carryall on it, its turret is slower then even the deva itself it (eh.... welll kinda). Or what about feds all atr must have feds, its a law.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Hmmm...deva is powerful, but I don`t think mino is as weak against him as chemical against turret. And no every Atreides must have Feds. In none-campaign mission even Harkonnen could have Feds.

[crazy]

when the mino can start shooting from maximum range and keep running away from the devestator.

shoot again. runs away.

the mino will win.

but when hes in the dev his range the dev will kill em with 1 plasma bolt and 1 misile salvo.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

This mino running so fast! ;)

But only real players are able to do something like that. Comp never move mino back. Its just standing and wait for devastator or even go closer.

[playerap]

yep ;D dang comps dont put up a hard fight like any good player