nemafakei Posted March 10, 2002 Share Posted March 10, 2002 Ok...So in summary: On brute force alone, the Dev wins, but the mino is a more versatile unit and could win if used properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted March 10, 2002 Share Posted March 10, 2002 yeah.... minotour more versatile..... deva is better vs. heavy armored vehicles though... mino sux pretty bad vs. heavy armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted March 10, 2002 Share Posted March 10, 2002 Trust Nema to come upp with the statement that ends this argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeydRauttah Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 Now look - the Deva costs 2500$. The Mino costs 1400$. You can get two Minotaurs and 1 Atreides light infantry for the price of a Deva. The Deva has only one way to win if the Minotauruses and the infantryman have the high ground - to fire at them until his health is red and then self - destruct - I've tried it. Westwood have balanced the game just right. Also, the Devastator is not the absolute king of the battlefield - there is one thing that beats it in a 1 on 1 combat - a Fedaykin on a Worm!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 i lasertank wil beat it if properly used, deviater, kobra, aa trooper, morter infantrie, mongoose, minotaur, kindjal, inkvine catapult, trooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aribites Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 Most units can beat it if they are used in the correct way and formation!!!! Even light infantry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 wait.... since when does the deva cost 2500 and the mino 1400?... in my version it's 1750 for deva and 1300 for mino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 I believe different versions have different prices. As they would have modified it to make more balance in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 Plus, the calculations based on that were wrong.Assuming 1300 and 1750, that's 1 Mino, 1 light infantry, and 1 trike per Dev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 But he was assuming. Now look - the Deva costs 2500$. The Mino costs 1400$. You can get two Minotaurs and 1 Atreides light infantry for the price of a Deva. The Deva has only one way to win if the Minotauruses and the infantryman have the high ground - to fire at them until his health is red and then self - destruct - I've tried it. Westwood have balanced the game just right.He had it wrong, but this is corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 oh great, mushman started this up him and me argue non stop about this @ school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 This one seems pretty obvious. If the Devastator has been dropped via Advanced Carryall next to the Minotaurus, it'll blast it to bits. If it has to march to get it in range, the Minotaurus can keep shooting at it and walking away until the Devastator is dead. (The Minotaurus may be slow, but it can still outpace a Devastator!!) ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Don't Mino's shoot at carryalls loads before they land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 no... you can drop the deva in the back of the mino... and the mino is dead before it can even turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 i wonder if i send 15 devastaters in an heavely defended base would they survive that?hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aribites Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I dunno.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aribites Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 Depends what defences are being used! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 the chance that you don't win is very very small.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Never try Devastator drops on Harkonnen. It will be a waste of time and money. Against the Atreides, you have to watch out for their Air Drones and Rocket Turrets. Mongeese shouldn't be a problem as long as the Advanced Carryall isn't hit more than twice. But with that many Devs coming all at the same time, chances are lots of them will make it through, and then the enemy base will be sharpnel. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burseg_candor Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 devasator vs basewinner: devasator hands downbut only in large numbersdont let them concetrate their fire on you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 With the Adv Carryall + Deva rush, why bother for a lost deva? When you can build that much you don't look one a deva or one more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Devastator is one inaccurate and catastrophically slow machine. Minotaurus too. Why you're talking about primitive tanks, when you have powerful infantry like Sardaukars available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 For price of one Devastator you can train 8 normal Sardaukars or 16 Kindjals. Also, Devastator is unusable without a carryall, what's another 1800 credits. Really cool unit.It should be used only against other slow and dear craft like mentioned Minotaurus or Kobra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Try drop a Sardaukar in enemy's base... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 try 8 sardaukar vs. minotaur and say that again caid_ivik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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