Rostok Posted April 25, 2004 Posted April 25, 2004 Harvester drops are perhaps the most despised tactic in the game. It is when you grab one of your harvesters, tell it to move into the enemy's army (or right next to it) then move in your army behind it. The theory is, the enemy's units will attack the harvester mainly, allowing you to destroy their army. I LOVE the harv drop, i think its lame, but usually effective. It can sometimes mean you can destroy an army larger than yours with minimal losses, and it can help in a rush (fly in a harv to distract turrets). What do you think?
mordusxxx Posted April 25, 2004 Posted April 25, 2004 i think that harv drops are cheap and useless only big noobs who cant play will drop harvs imo
GUNWOUNDS Posted April 25, 2004 Posted April 25, 2004 it totally depends on the firepower of the enemy.....if the enemy has tons of anti-personnel weapons instead of anti-armor weapons.... then the harvy will last for a loooong time and you will slaughter them..... however if the enemy has plenty of high power anti-armor units then the harvy will only last for a few seconds and will be useless....good example.... atreides guarding base with lots of inf and snipers.... send in a harvy.. they shoot at harvy forever.. send in gass and dusties and slaughter them....here the harvy was wonderful tactic....bad example.... hark is guarding base with 30 sards and 10 missile trucks.... you send in a harvy..... harvy is destroyed in 2 seconds.... in this example the harvy was useless....so in order to make yourself immune to harvy drops you need to make sure your army has enuf "punch" to destroy any decoy harvies used. ;)
Rostok Posted April 26, 2004 Author Posted April 26, 2004 Yeah they are usually most effective in the early game.Also Mord, may i direct your attention to my signature. That is all :O
bryorama Posted April 28, 2004 Posted April 28, 2004 lol, I find them quite annoying because there are better ways to play the game and show your real potential versing dropping a harvester into the enemies army so that you can go and shoot at them. LOL, IMHO.
GUNWOUNDS Posted April 28, 2004 Posted April 28, 2004 You dont need to show potential, just win.WERD ... i mean if the Enemy's army is so pathetic that they cant kill a harvy in less than a few seconds then they dont deserve to live.!
leo Posted April 28, 2004 Posted April 28, 2004 I think it's very lame, it makes the game completely unfair. you can be winning but then in a sec cause of 1 #$%# harv you will lose, no need for special skills just a little army and 1 or or more harvies.hehe Rostok, you can't direct me to your signature. ;)
GUNWOUNDS Posted April 28, 2004 Posted April 28, 2004 If you have a hark or ordos wor, it means that most of the army, at least at the early stages of the game, consists of buzz/dusties and simple soldiers. 1 harv is enuff to make a player lose all his army in seconds...mortars? AA troopers? Sards? Sard elites? ,maybe a few lasers? come on .. at least one or two tanks? .... something!!!! just add a few of what i mentioned and the harvy will die pretty fast.if all you are using is dusties and buzz then something is wrong !!if all else fails.... BACK AWAY from the harvy .. heheheh. ;D
Rostok Posted May 2, 2004 Author Posted May 2, 2004 leo, my signature can always be changed! :DAnyway, i don't see how it is unfair, as everyone will have atleast 1 harvy to use/abuse.
Warskum Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 Guys just m,ove your troops away from the harv :OAint that hard, its a part of the game, as a good player you should be prepared for it and be able to avoid/stop it, but dont whine wenn some one does that.
Warlord Posted June 18, 2004 Posted June 18, 2004 in multiplayer games, you only get as many harvesters as you pay for. if they had enough time to get a refinery up and running, you should already have units which can counter both infantry and vehicles
Da_Schorpie Posted December 18, 2004 Posted December 18, 2004 erm ya... I did like harvester drops...When I played 10k without pre-built on knife fight (one of my favo settings ;D) I needed it sometimes to beat a harkonnen rush. I myself played ordos, and when u see the harkonnen player rushing with buzzsaw/inf/sardaukar harv drops might get usefull :)But indeed I gotto submit it's only good at the beginning of the game, late game it's kinda crappy
GUNWOUNDS Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 you should be able to toggle your army AI to ignore harvesters.
Marcel71 Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 hmm, Harv drop is just as valid as hiding your units between your harvesters, so the opponent can't attack...Both tactics totally ok with me.... If my opponent does a harvest drop, i go away with my units, or i have a big enough army to take out the harv in a few secs....Just remember too that when he uses his harv in an attack, then he will have no money from that harv... (plus he might even loose it)...Anyway. The people opposing the harv drop, what do you think of hiding your units inbetween your harvesters?
erjin999 Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 Because you are choosing to attack me at my base, and I retreat, something I would do whether they were there or not. But to actively take them and use them as part of your attack stinks.If everyone did it, and it was a part of a narmal expected attack, then that would be different, but its not, only a few not so good payers currently do it as far as I can tell...
Marcel71 Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 only a few not so good payers currently do it as far as I can tell...I do it if i think i need it ::)And even without regrets ;D
gunner154 Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 I have not heard of such a queer strategy in my time (which means two years ago). But it sounds funny nevertheless.Despicable? I guess it's really just a Trojan Horse. Ever seen those guys as despicable? It could well be a means to win...
Marcel71 Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 It was also done in 'our' time...But sometimes you just need the money you know ;)
gunner154 Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Once you have a pretty large army, the odds are against you, you're broke, you just go and do it. You'll get a new harvester each time you lose your last harvester... just make sure the enemy doesn't use an advanced carryall to pick up that last harvester...
Rostok Posted December 26, 2004 Author Posted December 26, 2004 it really helps.if you are playing 1 on 1, even 2 on 2, and you want to finish off an opponent, u drop your 12 or so harvies into and around his base/army, then attack. no matter how good his army is, if u drop them in strategic positions, you should always win the battle.
erjin999 Posted December 26, 2004 Posted December 26, 2004 Precisely. Where is the fun in that ? Negates any skill that might be used in the battle.
Rostok Posted December 27, 2004 Author Posted December 27, 2004 You aren't ruthless enough. It's a last resort. usually i avoid doing it because you can tell whether you will win a battle or not, but if i've got a stand off against hark and im ordos.... harvs even it for me, maybe even tilt it my way :)
desertway Posted December 27, 2004 Posted December 27, 2004 I can't say that I have ever done it.And when it happens to me I there really isn't a place to fall back to. The only place I have seen it used(with any success) is in the beginning of a game to help someone rush. If they are rushing you, you have 2 choices. Stay and defend your base, or let them kill you. So moving back is not always an option.
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