Navaros Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 I know this is Gob's site and he can do whatever he wants. I am not disputing that.I am asking this question for my own personal reference. I hope the Mods here will let this thread stay open. I promise that I am not going to start a flamewar with this thread.Here is my personal opinion: Gob gave me a post limit for no *good* reason. His main reason was because a guy who he likes asked him to limit me, so he did. I believe that I should have no post limit at all, because I almost always keep my comments on-topic and relevant to the subject at hand, and lately there have been very few instances of me breaking any Fed2k Rules. Yet there are several people on this site who spam, flame, and break all kinds of Fed2k Rules on a regular basis, and these people are often not penalized at all. From my perspective, this doesn't seem fair at all since I am punished worse than them for doing far less offenses.For example, I am sure most rational people here at Fed2k will agree that the vast majority of loweezee's posts are spam. Yet until recently, he had no post limit at all! I have a limit of 5, and I almost never spam. To me, this seems absurd. I am not trying to flame loweezee - I am merely using him as a reference point for this discussion. loweezee himself has admitted in his own words "i can't help myself from spamming".So my question to the Fed2k Members is: do you agree with me, that I Navaros do not deserve any sort of post limit at all?Or do you think that Gob did the right thing by limiting my posting to 5 per day?Post your answers in this thread.
lowzeewee Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Btw,I am back just to post in this thread. ::)The answer is short and simple.Yes. :D I also have a 5 PPD limit here so do you.Anyway thanks for using me as your example.
Nyarlathotep Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 For example, I am sure most rational people here at Fed2k will agree that the vast majority of loweezee's posts are spam.I agree with you on that one.
Nyarlathotep Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 You are not answering nav's question.IMO no one should have a post limit. You either follow the rules or you don't. If you choose not to follow the rules, you shouldn't be here.
Caid Ivik Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Well, it is sure that Nav makes no spam. Altough it is true, that he has rather confrontative style of rhetorics, post limit makes it only worse. He tries to concentrate everything to minimum of posts and when he joins a longer dispute, suddenly he can't reply to defend his thoughts! Erase that post limit or make it of more symbolical quantity. It is good only for permament spammers, which prick their words to every thread without any reason and nefesh inside it, when you see problem in not quantity, but quality of post, then make a censoring system, which would automatically put *** over vulgar words or something like that.
GhostHunter Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Navaros, you SHOULD have a post limit considering notice how everytime you post you amazingly manage to normally piss off 1/2 of the total returning-members?
exatreide Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 it is abusrd, thats why i have the free nav thing in my post, for your post limit to be removed. its total bs that you have one, another instance of the zars power..
Cyborg Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 Why do you not contact Gob himself about this?I am sure this is not the correct way of removing your post count.
Dante Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 I think the current evidence dictates that you should have a post limit. The posts do seem to be generally on topic, if a bit vulgar. I think perhaps instead of creating a thread to complain, which makes you appear childish, you should perhaps temper your ego and play the system for a while. Then make quiet hints about getting a larger limit, or having it removed entirely by then. It's slower, but everyone will benefit from it.
Navaros Posted August 29, 2003 Author Posted August 29, 2003 Why do you not contact Gob himself about this?I am sure this is not the correct way of removing your post count.i did contact Gob himself about this and as i said, this thread is not a dictate to Gob to remove it. i think that me having any limit is wrong and unfair, and i am asking for other people's opinions if they agree with me or not. even if 100 members posted in this thread that my limit is immoral, Gob might still leave it on. i realize that. this thread is simply to gage opinions. to dust scout: i see nothing childish about complaining. adults complain too. your statement seems illogical.
Dante Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 There's nothing wrong with complaining. But when you're being watched by a lot of people it may have an adverse effect. Not to mention that there are always people who interpret valid complaints as "whinging."And yes, adults complain. But not as much as their smaller comrades.
quoudam72 Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 I know this is Gob's site and he can do whatever he wants.Navaros that first statement says it all in a simple context.
Terror Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 i agree that nav's and lowzee's post limit should be removed. Though Lowzee should keep his spamming in mind. Nav doesn't do much spamming, though a bit flaming true. But i think that got better somewhat the last couple of months. So remove the chains and let him free.
playerap Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 well i dont believe that if a friend told Gob he did it i think he did it because u flame and are always acting better than others i have seen alot of posts that are helpful and alot that are just dumb because u didnt read the whole topic and u post ur opinion way to fast before even reading the posters opinion i think u should have a post limit but with more post than 5 ..and if that works out move it up and up than sooner or lata delete it . my opionon
Mahdi Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 I tell Gob to ban the lot of you all the time, yet yer all still posting.Someday, someday I'll have it all to myself....
SurlyPIG Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 Nav, though you don't 'spam,' per se, you go OT a lot, provoking people at the same time. For instance, when you disagree with someone, instead of logically deconstructing their argument and suggesting something better, you often say something like "Don't listen to him, he's an idiot he even said this.." and proceed to quote a post that's like 17 months old and= tell everyone, in detail, your irrelevent personal perceptions of everyone who disagrees with you.P.S. : ditto to what Mahdi said. You've been banned before, more than once I believe. You should feel lucky you can still post at all. Gob has certainly been more sympathetic than most of us would be.P.P.S. : Since not all of your posts are "spammy" a post limit is not the best solution, but it's the next best thing to limiting the possible extent of your hostility to other members.
lowzeewee Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 I will be back only to post on nav-debating threads.@nav:Consider yourself lucky not to get a ban.@Everyone else:The post limit limits the hostility he has towards the FED2K community and reduces danger. :D
Navaros Posted August 30, 2003 Author Posted August 30, 2003 in response to ACE:you are just as hostile to me and post offtopic irrelevant crap about me all the time too, and tell people "don't listen to Nav, he's an idiot" therefore you should also have a post limit by your own logic. you always do all the exact things to me that you are saying i do to you. so does lotsa of other people who i know from WOL.
Mahdi Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 Nav, though you don't 'spam,' per se, you go OT a lot, provoking people at the same time. For instance, when you disagree with someone, instead of logically deconstructing their argument and suggesting something better, you often say something like "Don't listen to him, he's an idiot he even said this.." and proceed to quote a post that's like 17 months old and= tell everyone, in detail, your irrelevent personal perceptions of everyone who disagrees with you.P.S. : ditto to what Mahdi said. You've been banned before, more than once I believe. You should feel lucky you can still post at all. Gob has certainly been more sympathetic than most of us would be.P.P.S. : Since not all of your posts are "spammy" a post limit is not the best solution, but it's the next best thing to limiting the possible extent of your hostility to other members.I wasn't reffering to Nav, I said the lot of you. Meaning everyone. But me.
TMA_1 Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 lol oh very nice mahdi. ;)nav, you are funny. do you stand for anything? or are you a hollow shell that holds no human feelings or desires? it is almost as if you mimic the human race, but arent apart of it. ALmost like that emptiness drives you to hate anything that remotely questions your humanity. You are so flighty, and such a straw that blows in the wind, that it really is hard to understand you, let alone feel sorry for you or be upset at you.Your posts are also usually amusing to me, keep up the good work! :)
nemafakei Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 "For instance, when you disagree with someone, instead of logically deconstructing their argument and suggesting something better, you often say something like "Don't listen to him, he's an idiot he even said this.." and proceed to quote a post that's like 17 months old and= tell everyone, in detail, your irrelevent personal perceptions of everyone who disagrees with you."You might have wanted to cite an example"you are just as hostile to me and post offtopic irrelevant crap about me all the time too, and tell people "don't listen to Nav, he's an idiot" therefore you should also have a post limit by your own logic. you always do all the exact things to me that you are saying i do to you. so does lotsa of other people who i know from WOL. "Oh, perhaps not, Nav's provided you with one already.
SurlyPIG Posted August 30, 2003 Posted August 30, 2003 you are just as hostile to me and post offtopic irrelevant crap about me all the time too, and tell people "don't listen to Nav, he's an idiot" therefore you should also have a post limit by your own logic. you always do all the exact things to me that you are saying i do to you. so does lotsa of other people who i know from WOL.Only when it is fittingly ironic, such as your "Quitters List," in which you berate people for doing something you are famous for. And I while I may bring up ironic, though not completely relevant, past instances, I don't give everyone my 3rd degree judgemental opinion of them like you do. (well, except for this thread, really, but it is called for) You aren't the only one that does it, but you do it more than all of the other members combined. Didn't you make up an essay about me you wanted to send over IM?
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