Your Mind's Eye on Religion

[TMA_1]

What do you guys find is the most beneficial and accurate religion? What docterns do you find fit with you best? Of course I think Christianity is the only one.lol but I want to hear your guy's opinions on it.

Also, to atheists or agnostics out there. What troubles you with each religion?

[Caid Ivik]

Christianity has proven, that if people live in its way, then is their life good and I can say full. But possibly other people, risen from birth in other religions, think they have full life by the way they know. Most religions, especially those big, have same target, the state of Heaven, just they call it by other way, also there are questions of responsibility or doom, also about the importance and variability of the creative force etc.

[Davidu]

The most innofensive religion it's Buddhism, I think...

But for no reason will I leave my religion (I'm christian orthodox).

[Acriku]

Buddhism is the most beneficial to one's self. Christianity just knocks down your self-esteem by saying "Your scum. We human beings are specks on dirt. We are lowly beasts with evil intentions, and sinful. We are nothing." And then when you convert because your self-esteem is tossed to shit, they say, "You are one with god, and he loves you. He loves us all, we are the children of god and we feel his grace embrace us." It's bs. Buddhism is the way to go. The most accurate? None of them. Including historical facts doesn't make the religion more accurate, nor does putting real people in it make it more accurate. In the atheistic Buddhism, it is simply the path to enlightenment. It states nothing about the earth's creation, so with that none, because no religion is the most accurate with its statements.

[Egeides]

I believe that Christianity is very large. I mean that some will say that they are scums because of it, some others will say that they should kill in the name of Christ (we will bring freedom to others, even if they don't want what we call freedom). The same happens to some people from Islam. I guess they all bring certain tendencies and ideas, and some are interpreting it not very well. I believe Buddhism (in some forms) can bring to some way to see things that's prett much "do nothing and be nothing" which I don't see as perfectly good since I personally see doing good stuff as better (but they would disagree perhaps, saying it's an illusion or something). Anything that is asking to not seek truth is bad to me, should it be to get some people of a religion DECIDE that they believe Bible meant "don't seek for science" and stuff like that... How could seeking truth be against God?!

Personally, I see myself as a christian that sees also many things in other religions that aren't at all going in an opposite side to christianity and may even help understand things about religion. These things may be in the Bible, but sometimes seeing it said in another way can help understand.

I believe in fact that all religions (almost, if you want to consider stuff like cults to who knows what) were formed with the goal to bring humans to be better. Anyone following a religion really well will then be a better person.

[Dude_Doc]

I don't care what you believe in, as long as your religion does not include "kill that kind of people", "hate that kind of people" or "kill for the sake of God". Even in "Jihad" warriors are not allowed to kill civilians.

[Acriku]

I believe religions were made to 1) control the masses 2) explain what is around them or 3) relieve fears. I don't think any of them were made to make humanity better, maybe better like Hitler wanted humanity to be better by wiping out all who weren't Aryans...

[TMA_1]

hitler was an open spiritualist.lol

and geesh, you seem pretty hell bent against religion. no need to be bitter.

[ordos45]

What type of Christianity:

Protestant Christianity?

Roman Catholic Christianity?

Gnostic Christianity?

Christo-Pagan Christianity?

Mormon Christianity?

Jehovah's Witness Christianity?

;)

[DjCiD]

I heard Mormonism isn't really Christianity, has anyone else heard something like this?

[Gobalopper]

http://www.irr.org/mit/Is-Mormonism-Christian.html

Mormons share with orthodox Christians some important moral precepts from the Bible. However, the above points are examples of the many fundamental and irreconcilable differences between historic, biblical Christianity and Mormonism. While these differences do not keep us from being friendly with Mormons, we cannot consider them brothers and sisters in Christ. The Bible specifically warns of false prophets who will teach "another gospel" centered around "another Jesus," and witnessed to by "another spirit" (2 Corinthians 11:4,13-15; Galatians 1:6-9). Based on the evidence presented above, we believe Mormonism represents just such a counterfeit gospel.

I would say no, there are some similarities, but a lot of key differences.

[ordos45]

I'd say it isn't, but that's jsut me. I'm drawing from a list.

(Add Celtic Christianity)

[Warlord Ripskar]

Current status; Agnostic

I was sent to a catholic school as a child and began to doubt what I was being told when my began to be herded into mass. Other kids used to say they could sence Jesus standing next them when they ate the wafers, I felt absolutely nothing. It was like being dropped amongst a group of halucinating people. I began to become aware of the inconsistencies in what we were being taught as well as the Nuns giving unconvincing answers whenever certain questions were asked.

This led me to atheism for the rest of my childhood.

I reexamined my beliefs when I did my A levels and came to the conclusion that Christianity/Judaism/Islam could be ruled out but that I had insufficient knowlege of other belief systems to make a decision on the them.

Out of the re-examination of my beliefs I was able to negate almost all of the Bible's statements exept one.

I was taking A levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics. I heard a statement to the effect that "Religeon is an attempt to answer the ultimate question of the Meaning of Life."

I applied my knowledge of science to this question.

The scientific definition of life is;

An organised form of energy caplable of self replication.

In Genesis there is one sentence which states much the same thing, "Go forth and multiply".

[Egeides]

I believe religions were made to 1) control the masses 2) explain what is around them or 3) relieve fears. I don't think any of them were made to make humanity better, maybe better like Hitler wanted humanity to be better by wiping out all who weren't Aryans...

Acriku, do you believe that some humans ay beieve in God for other reasons also, above all this pretty humanish behaviour? I mean, to me it DOES explain things around me (otherwise, what would say me He exists?), it's explaining the world and some of its characteristics... Not why clouds are formed of course, stuff more about moral, beauty, metaphysics, existence...

[Acriku]

Sure people may have different reasons to believe (although they would be the minority), but I was talking about why religions are made. It's that simple.

[Davidu]

Hey, what about Orthodox and Greek-Catholic?

I've never heard of Celtic-Christians... Can anyone explain?

[ordos45]

I think a mix of Celtic beliefs and Christianity. Here's the Beliefnet Board link for it.

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/discussion_list.asp?boardID=44248

[Andrew]

I beleive in Muad'dib

[Caid Ivik]

Christianity, Jesus' preaching, is the best we can have for a good society. Of course, for ONE person should be good anything, but christianity, no matter of form (just it has to be opened society; not forget about Pharsees), creates the best one, most advanced, orderous, creative and still happy. Just we have to stay in directions and it's close.

[Edric O]

Sure people may have different reasons to believe (although they would be the minority), but I was talking about why religions are made. It's that simple.

Oh, so you just went and talked to Jesus, Mahommed, Moses, Buddha, etc. and asked them? ::)

Christianity just knocks down your self-esteem by saying "Your scum. We human beings are specks on dirt. We are lowly beasts with evil intentions, and sinful. We are nothing."

*pokes Acriku*

Ummm, Acriku, please wake up... And take a look around you. Do you see pretty flowers, sunshine and happy happy people everywhere? NO. You see pollution, hunger, misery, violence, death. Not only do we humans constantly slaughter ourselves, but we're also completely messing up the planet while we're at it.

And then you're telling me that we are NOT lowly beasts with evil intentions?

[Acriku]

Edric, Jesus didn't make a religion. Don't know about Buddha, couldn't care less. Moses didn't start a religion. And you know for sure these people existed?

Edric, please. We are shortsighted in history about the ecology and environment, and now we are fixing it. Tsk tsk pessimist :P

[Caid Ivik]

Buddha was a way different than Jesus. Buddha told only way is to close ourselves and reach the nirvana stage by ourselves, no help is needed. But christianity tolds us that we can reach the Heaven only by helping others, so it's mess with those two. Hinduists believe that there is no possibility of reaching it if we aren't favored by gods. Buddha, vulgarily, shitted on gods and "found" a way without them. Both two, Jesus and Buddha were, if nothing else, brilliant philosophers and teachers, who formulated the specifications of their religions. Like Jefferson (or who) wrote your constitution.

Another thing is that you still want to prove someone's existence. By this you wouldn't be able to make any part of history, i.e. you can say Hitler existed, because you may know people which saw him, but the next generation wouldn't in your case.

[Edric O]

Edric, Jesus didn't make a religion. Don't know about Buddha, couldn't care less. Moses didn't start a religion. And you know for sure these people existed?

*looks around*

Errr... it sure seems to me like Jesus started a religion... either that or I don't really exist. :)

But anyway, that's not the point. The point was that you were making a sweeping statement about why religions were created. And I pointed out that you can't possibly know that, and you're just making wild assumptions.

Edric, please. We are shortsighted in history about the ecology and environment, and now we are fixing it. Tsk tsk pessimist. :P

Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that we're currently messing it up. And we've been doing it for a very long time.

Not to mention how we tend to kill each other for the stupidest reasons.

[Acriku]

The people made the religion, not Jesus. Jesus was a Jew till the day he died. Or am I misunderstood?

The point was that you were making a sweeping statement about why religions were created. And I pointed out that you can't possibly know that, and you're just making wild assumptions.

It's called rational thinking. People unknown in the world try to explain these surroundings using supernatural (not always) means, and it becomes a religion.

[DjCiD]

Jesus taught how to be 'Fishers of men' and not just fishermen... sounds like he was starting something, call it religion or a following, it is because of Jesus.