Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Hey, this is the first installation of curousity at its finest! I was wondering, for all monotheists, would you kill your mother if God commanded you to? This explains it better than me: If God told me to kill somebody, would I do it?Now, this question requires a few disclaimers. First, no copping out and claiming that the God you believe in would never ask such a thing of you - this is hypothetical. Second, the person to be killed does, in fact, want to live: s/he did not request this, this is not euthanasia; nor does s/he deserve it for crimes committed. This is cold-blooded murder, with no mitigating circumstances or hidden aspects that will make it all right in the end.So, would you do it?This is getting to a theory that I have found rather interesting, so when a sufficient amount have answered, I will post it and see what everbody thinks, ok? Step in line, don't skip, don't push, and enjoy :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 In one word - "F*cking NO". Oh wait, that's two words ;D. My bad.And if God truly asked that of me I would stop believing in him, because he would not be what I thought about God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue1896 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 it's insanity. if I was told to kill ANYONE, let alone my own mother, i'd give up all faith and become an atheist. it's that simple. and, in my opinion, anyone who says 'yes' is a deluted fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Would you kill your mother for your country acriku? same kind of question. Your whole argument is to put christians in a negative spotlight right when they enter into the debate. It is debilitating and unfair. Abraham was going to kill his son jacob as a sacrifice. An angel stopped him though. It was a test of faith. It shows though that abraham would have done what God told him no matter what.Also, God wouldnt tell me to kill my mother because that is in direct conflict with his own standards. Acriku you are becoming snide. I mean I can expect this from some people. but you? Geesh, grow up man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 TMA, in the quote it said that this was purely hypothetical. Just a yes or no, with an explanation of why you chose either one if you want to. This is all for curiousity and to inform people of knowledge they may not have. It all will all have a purpose when I feel enough have answered. And no this is in no way attacking monotheism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Answer the question though, TMA. Do not take the cowardly way out. State, "Yes", or "No". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 the answer is obvious. I said of course you should. Abraham would have killed his only true son for God. We should do anything for Him who created all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Nope, I would sooner cut my foot off at the command of the producers of the Loveboat. And I never liked Abraham anyway, he would have killed his own son, and he would have been wrong no matter what God dictated to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 if i heard an ominous voice saying "kill your mother, I am God" of course I would assume that the voice I was hearing was not God.Therefore, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 Once again, I reiterate that this is purely hypothetical. There is no doubt in your mind that God himself is commanding you to kill somebody, for example your mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Does God really command people to bomb abortion clinics? or all those people crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 they are crazy ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 I truly do not know. It might be that He does command them, and it will all make sense in the end, or they are crazy, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 no there just crazy ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 I'm gonna go with crazy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Does God really command people to bomb abortion clinics? or all those people crazy?That is yet another example of people supporting stupid violent acts with their religion. They're just crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 So does that say the same thing for the Taliban(sp?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 shitty thread...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 cat scratch fever MEO MEO! cat scratch fever MEO MEOcat scratch fever...uh? i dont see how. its asking a theoretical question of what if god commanded you to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 There is no doubt in your mind that God himself is commanding you to kill somebody, for example your mother. this is impossible to answer. If i hear some voice say "I am God" and in my mind I have no doubt that it is God then I am now insane. you are asking basically:"Lets pretend you have just become insane. Your ability to think rationally is gone. What would you do?"Answer: HOW WOULD I KNOW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 So does that say the same thing for the Taliban(sp?)Yes. For the most part, so-called "agents of God" are just crazy, misguided whackos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 Alright guys, let's get back to the topic :) TMA that was a bit uncalled for... Emprworm can you not accept that this is a hypothetical question and just answer it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 hmmm Acriku, the question is really immature. Its like asking, What if God didnt send christ to save us? God in the first place would never do such a thing. He sent us his son. So why would God want us to kill our moms? I mean that is abusing our faith in trying to make us seem immoral.What if I asked you, since you are an athiest, Why dont you go out and rape every girl you think is attractive? I mean we are animals arent we? Loaded questions are probably one oft he scummiest things I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted January 12, 2003 Author Share Posted January 12, 2003 Jesus f*ing Christ does anybody understand what hypothetical mean? I mean for crying out loud some people are so uptight they can't answer a hypothetical question! It does not attack anybody, it is a question. If you can't handle answering it, or the question itself, then perhaps you need to take a chill pill, go to your respected church/temple/synagogue leader and talk with him about it, and perhaps he will find it not as hard to answer it, and perhaps you will then find it not as hard to answer it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 Acriku:I understand hypothetical. You are asking me to hypothetically assume that I am insane and have no ability to think clearly or rationally. Ok, fine. I will assume, hypothetically, that I lost all ability to think reasonably (lol, like I'm sure some of you probably think thats not a hypothetical....haha).Ok, now that I am under this assumption...what next?Well you are asking me that once I imagine myself as fully insane, what would I do given a certain circumstance?Well since I would be fully insane at that point, it is really REALLY hard for me to answer you since I have no idea what kinds of decisions I would make if I had lost my sanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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