ken124578 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 Hey, as some of you people know, i cannot read posts which i cannot quote, i can't read-off polls and see on which options i can vote and what they mean.Could someone tell me whats written there?example:option 1: wormfood.option 2: BAN!option 3: limit him to a board, etc
rogue1896 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 Poll Question: What should we do with Navaros? 9% - (4 Votes) - Let him post in only one thread 9% - (4 Votes) - Let him post in only one board 63% - (26 Votes) - Ban Him, aka Feed him to the Sandworms 17% - (7 Votes) - NothingTotal Votes: 41
thomas Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 ??? y is nav back i thought you perma banned him?
emprworm Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 i voted to ban him. The reason is because his actions already - - in the past - - were enough to warrant permanent banning. The community was told that he was permanently banned. Navaros was given repeated warnings about hijacking threads, changing subjects, and flaming people with unsubstantiated accusations- a behavior to which he demonstrated with crystal clarity he was unabale to control. As a result, he was justly banned. Now that he has come back, he hasn't committed any grave offense, however that is not the point. His current behavior is not in question. There is no question that he warranted a permanent ban. The question is should that ban be revoked?If Gob revokes 1 permanent ban, he (in my opinion) must revoke them all. Since all on the ban list earned their spot there, Gob should not pick and choose which one to revoke. either unban them all, or keep them all banned.JMHO.
Navaros Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 insight into the numbers:though I do acknowledge - and don't really care - that the majority of the users here hate me - because the majority of the users who hate me, hate me only for one of two reasons:1. i've proven them to be cheaters and have been a thorn in their side because i am the *only* one who has taken a stand against cheating in the Emp community2. i've owned them and they are jealous of my mad skillzthese are the main two motivations people have for hating me. oh yeah, then there's Landsraad like Scytale who hate me simply because I caused them to lose their Landsraad statusoh yes, i almost forgot the point of my post here: i question the integrity of those numbers; because seeing as almost everyone in the Emp hacking/cheating community hates me, especially those who are so adept at hackng that they actually hacked into ppl's WOL accounts and changed their WOL passwords (ie: FEW/hobbtz frontman cable2ghz/gunwounds), i bet they will do anything possible to get revenge on me. since 100% of the hacking/cheating community in Emp hates me because I stand up for fair Tournament play and speak out against hacking cheaters, it stands to reason that some, if not most, of those hackers have sabotaged the Poll by teaching their "clan" mates how to cheat the poll system by allowing themselves multiple votes.another thing, to make this poll more fair, users should be alloted voting power based on a pro-rata basis. based on the amount of time that they've been on the Official Emperor Boards. so guys like Earthnuker and Edric0 and ACE and elite47 would have a ton of voting power, and board n00bs like rogue1896 and pretty much all the other "FEW clan" guys and every other board n00b who's hardly been here at all don't have their opinions viewed with equal clout as the opinions of people who's opinions are inherently more valid based on seniority
VigilVirus Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 Ah, there goes Nav, accusing us. This time of cheating the polls. Really, what you're doing, is proving even more to people that you should be permanently banned.
Anathema Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 another thing, to make this poll more fair, users should be alloted voting power based on a pro-rata basis. based on the amount of time that they've been on the Official Emperor Boards. so guys like Earthnuker and Edric0 and ACE and elite47 would have a ton of voting power, and board n00bs like rogue1896 and pretty much all the other "FEW clan" guys and every other board n00b who's hardly been here at all don't have their opinions viewed with equal clout as the opinions of people who's opinions are inherently more valid based on seniority.The time one has been in this community isn't and shouldn't be a factor. Any member on this board has equal rights, wich includes newbies as well as older members.
csjeff Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 1. i've proven them to be cheaters and have been a thorn in their side because i am the *only* one who has taken a stand against cheating in the Emp community2. i've owned them and they are jealous of my mad skillzI'm new here, new to EBFD and don't play online (nobody there), so I have no reason to dislike you based on the reasons you've given.I obviously haven't read every post of yours or know what you're like personally, but you come off as far too abrasive for my liking (and I suspect others' as well). Most of what I've seen is you running your mouth off about how you're better than other people and how everyone and their grandparents are cheaters (clearly an exaggeration on my part, since I'm sure you'll find a way to attack that). Perhaps some of this is beneficial to the community -- I really don't know -- however, to someone like myself, it seems as if all you're trying to do is stir up trouble.
rogue1896 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 well since you said that guns taught a member of FEW i assume that you are now accusing either me, dj, zilents, or die4 of hacking the poll. god that's pathetic. you can't accept the fact. and most of the emperor community doesn't hate you b/c of those two reasons. it's b/c you're an ass to all people unless they have, as you put it, 'owned your sorry ass.' if you could have just treated SOME people with respect and not accused random people of sucking at the game or of cheating you might've had more friends. Whether or not you really think that you've beaten almost everyone on this forum really makes no big deal to me. it's the fact that you openly announce it in front of everyone even if it's never happened. shouldn't you be trying to apologize and get sympathy now? you're way behind in the vote, which i highly doubt was hacked, so you should try to get some more sympathy votes. the reason i doubt it was hacked is b/c there really are that many people who you don't like. and i bet a couple of people have notified some of those who don't stop by as much anymore but still hate you like earedil. they probably came back just to vote you banned.however if posting really makes that big of a deal to you i have a suggestion for Gob, how about you do give nav that one post of his own. put it in the dungeon and have it be the only thing nav can post in. that's just if he pleads for mercy or something. only if he really needs to post, otherwise just ban em totally.
Taqwa11 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 csjeff, you ain't seen nothing yet from Nav. He was "permanently" banned for good reason. Gobalopper is a good guy, and he's been more than tolerant with Nav on many occasions, but Nav is clearly showing why he deserves to be banned once more, even though I voted to give him one thread. He can't live peacefully on these boards and be a respected member in good-standing, so his own little thread should be his own little purgatory.
DukeLeto Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 i voted nothing... Me too. I don't really see what he did wrong. Arguing your point isn't against the rules.
rogue1896 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 another thing, to make this poll more fair, users should be alloted voting power based on a pro-rata basis. based on the amount of time that they've been on the Official Emperor Boards. so guys like Earthnuker and Edric0 and ACE and elite47 would have a ton of voting power, and board n00bs like rogue1896 and pretty much all the other "FEW clan" guys and every other board n00b who's hardly been here at all don't have their opinions viewed with equal clout as the opinions of people who's opinions are inherently more valid based on seniorityName: DjCiD *FEW* Member ID: 751 Posts: 2008 Position: Landsraad Date Registered: 01/26/02, 07:46:46, Sat Name: Navaros Member ID: 1046 Posts: 1256 Position: Naib Date Registered: 04/21/02, 10:37:12, Sun correct me if i'm wrong but i thought that 751 came before 1046...i could be wrong tho. and on top of that dj is landsraad. so what was that about being more important than every FEW?and now i suppose you're gonna say that dj shouldn't have a right to even vote b/c he's probably the one that hacked the poll or something. or maybe you'll say that he's a member of FEW and that clan cheated once a long time ago. please nav, what's your comeback for this one? are you gonna say that people like you more than dj or maybe you're more respected than dj? face it, you've dug yourself into your own grave.
DukeLeto Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 DukeLeto Member ID: 912 Posts: 1633 Position: Ichwan Bedwine Date Registered: March 19, 2002, 12:20:48 But I don't see where you're going here...Edit: Ah! N/M. But if you're ging to refer to a post that far back, please quote it.
rogue1896 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 yeah sorry about that. it's just that when i read nav's post i felt like replying right away and didn't see the other posts. i apologize for any inconvinience. lol
SurlyPIG Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 Rogue this is a two way street, and right now there's a lot more traffic on your side. In those last two posts you twisted his words. He didn't say Cable "trained" anyone to cheat. Not at all. He used cable as an example of someone who hates him. And it's obvious dude. After cable was banned he came back under another name impersonating Nav like he's done to so many others.I'm not taking sides, I'm just observing.And when did he say that he was more important than every *FEW*? Again, you're twisting his words and starting trouble. I don't think Nav wants trouble right now. He's rather stubborn, but you would be too if pretty much everyone was against you. Do you see what I meant by this:Rogue, I noticed you've responded to like every one of his posts - not always flaming - but always negatively. Gob made the perfect ignore feature, here. Just place him on your ignore list, and from your perspective, he will be as good as banned.Clearly, you can't handle yourself around him. Sorry dude, but it's true. Why don't you just use the ignore feature that Gobalopper so conveniently made of people like you? It works absolutely perfectly. It's not like Nav is going to go around behind your back saying "Rogue sucks and if he doesn't respond he must be agreeing". If he does he'll be punished.Clearly, you hate him. You want him gone. If that's the case, why on Earth have you responded to virtually every single one of his posts since he returned?
Elite47 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 Nav, Are you that weak of a person you cant actually try?? Even me, someone who has never gotten along with you or been respected by you can try. Damn Im trying right now with you(i dont know why). TRY or be BANNED
Navaros Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 another thing, to make this poll more fair, users should be alloted voting power based on a pro-rata basis. based on the amount of time that they've been on the Official Emperor Boards. so guys like Earthnuker and Edric0 and ACE and elite47 would have a ton of voting power, and board n00bs like rogue1896 and pretty much all the other "FEW clan" guys and every other board n00b who's hardly been here at all don't have their opinions viewed with equal clout as the opinions of people who's opinions are inherently more valid based on seniorityName: DjCiD *FEW* Member ID: 751 Posts: 2008 Position: Landsraad Date Registered: 01/26/02, 07:46:46, Sat Name: Navaros Member ID: 1046 Posts: 1256 Position: Naib Date Registered: 04/21/02, 10:37:12, Sun correct me if i'm wrong but i thought that 751 came before 1046...i could be wrong tho. and on top of that dj is landsraad. so what was that about being more important than every FEW?and now i suppose you're gonna say that dj shouldn't have a right to even vote b/c he's probably the one that hacked the poll or something. or maybe you'll say that he's a member of FEW and that clan cheated once a long time ago. please nav, what's your comeback for this one? are you gonna say that people like you more than dj or maybe you're more respected than dj? face it, you've dug yourself into your own grave.uh DUH i was on the Official Emperor Boards way before djcid and the numbering system from those boards was never transferred hereand if i pointed out some of the things djcid has done/said i doubt Gob would let him be a Landsraad. why the heck djcid is a landsraad is beyond me
rogue1896 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 since 100% of the hacking/cheating community in Emp hates me because I stand up for fair Tournament play and speak out against hacking cheaters, it stands to reason that some, if not most, of those hackers have sabotaged the Poll by teaching their "clan" mates how to cheat the poll system by allowing themselves multiple votes.
rogue1896 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 well nav if you want to go by the original forums i'd even beat you. i joined those forums as soon as i heard the game was coming out. to be hoenst i didn't post, at all, b/c i didn't have many friends in emperor. and don't try to dig up some stats saying that rogue1896 didn't. i had a different name that even i don't remember. i never used it so i had no reason to remember it. i'm talking about this forum, not the official. and sorry ace if i'm sounding a little pissed at nav. trust me, you'll never see me get this angry ever again.and also ace, he did say that he was more important than the FEW people here. i think he did. perhaps i am twisting his words a little. i'm just really pissed and perhaps i'm not totally seeing clearly.another thing, to make this poll more fair, users should be alloted voting power based on a pro-rata basis. based on the amount of time that they've been on the Official Emperor Boards. so guys like Earthnuker and Edric0 and ACE and elite47 would have a ton of voting power, and board n00bs like rogue1896 and pretty much all the other "FEW clan" guys and every other board n00b who's hardly been here at all don't have their opinions viewed with equal clout as the opinions of people who's opinions are inherently more valid based on seniority
SurlyPIG Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 And that is exactly why you should put him on your ignore list. Nobody wants to see you two bicker, and if you don't cut it out you'll certainly be on mine.<In response to the first quote>So? He never named YOU or *FEW*.Nav, I'm not exactly sure how the polling system works here but I don't think "stacking the votes" can happen at FED2K. Gob mentioned he doesn't like banning by IP address when he banned cable, and I doubt the polling system would work that way. So unless someone has multiple accounts they shouldn't be able to vote more than once.That's a good thing. In my poll at SR's board to add bilbo to the list, he voted like thirty times for himself.
Navaros Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 rogue1896 why are you telling me to explain things when my words clearly stated "OFFICIAL EMPEROR BOARDS", not Fed2k. i was not talking about Fed2k so if *you* were that is your own bad for not paying attention to the words i used.
rogue1896 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 one last thing b4 i will put nav on my ignore list again. in response to your last question ace, this is the reason that i respond to every one of nav's post. throughout my entire childhood i've been told to stand up for myself. not to let someone push me around b/c he thinks he's better than me. granted, i'm not about to start a riot or something b/c of someone saying, 'Hey, i hate you.' or something. but when someone calls my abilities or integrity into the question, both of which nav did, i will retaliate. and since i'm not physically inflicting pain upon him i don't have to worry about getting sued. now i'm not a violent person, so i want people to remember that. nav just seems to bring out the worst in me.and b4 anyone asks me why i made three posts like this it's b/c they address three different subjects.
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