Anathema Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Really...stop the relion discussion. We've been over this to often.Why I believe there is no God? Well, would a just god allow all this horror and injustice happen to his own children?Now, I'm sure someone (Edric) is going to say something like, God does not protect us from our own stupidityThat's dumb. People who were killed in Vietnam did not bring the horror of the war with the US on themselves. Why does God let them suffer? You tell me.Furthermore, your soul is supposed to go to either hell or heaven right? So it must be getting pretty crowded up and down there right?And is there is no limit of how many sould can come to existance?If I ever convert, I would probably believe that God does not mingle in Earth's affairs for some reason. And reincarnation.
TMA_1 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 You obviously believe in some weird phantom God Edric. You have no backing of biblical verses and only go with your opinion. Stop trying to offend and hurt people's feelings. You are only bullying people to your opinion and it is really immature.
rogue1896 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 do you have proof there is? and btw, edric, i did not mean any war within the previous 100 or even 1000 years. back in the European days where there was a very strong influence of religion. people would go to war b/c of religion. and i'm not mocking a person that believes in god. i'm just stating facts. and avatar and elite, it's nice to know someone agrees with me.
d3m0nger Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 stop mocking people for believing in god. You don't have proof that there isn't? Look the proof i got is; that there is no proof god does exist, u wont jump in the water unless u know how cold it is right? OK
nampigai Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 there's no proof what so ever in what you just said. religion is about belief, and yes if I believe the water is warm I'll jump in. But give me a bulletproof proof that god doesn't excist and I'll stop believing, until that don't tell me what is right or wrong."do you have proof there is? and btw, edric, i did not mean any war within the previous 100 or even 1000 years. back in the European days where there was a very strong influence of religion. people would go to war b/c of religion. and i'm not mocking a person that believes in god. i'm just stating facts. and avatar and elite, it's nice to know someone agrees with me"I have no proof, I never said I had, but I never told you "there is a god"
ordos45 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Okay everyone stop the religion and stop the typos. If you want to look at the Religion thread where we covered this (repeatedly, about 1300 posts I believe) go to the stats, it is still in the top ten threads, number 2 in replies. Click on the link there, and you'll see all kinds of religious arguements.
TMA_1 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Remember a few things while edric is talkingfirst of all he is eastern orthodox. Just as bad as the catholic church for misinterpreting the bible, i.e. eucharist, limited atonement, exclusionist sainthood, I can go on and on. Second of all he mixes p.c. ideas and new ideologies with the bible which is strictly prohibited, see the last verse of revelations chapter 21. And third, he is extremely arrogant about his faith system and is hypocritical about his humility/superiority of other
rogue1896 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 i think the thing is we all enjoy a good, mature, and intellectual argument. even if it was already argued. lol
exatreide Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 *Sits down, Dims the lights. Grabs a bowl of popcorn and enjoys the flamming. ITs great for warming popcorn.
d3m0nger Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Well,Until there's proof i don't believe in a thing as god. you don't believe in 8 legged snakes unless You've seen them RIGHT??, Ya...
rogue1896 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 ......................*jumps ex and steals the popcorn*d3, you can't use that analogy. b/c you cannot technically SEE a lot of things, but we know they exist b/c they interact with the environment and cause things to happen. this can be proven, we can prove that small, microscopic organisms can interact with bigger organisms and cause flucuations and so on.if you say God intervenes where he sees it fit to intervene, then i'll just ask for proof. if you can proove that God had intervened somewhere, i'll believe you. if you can even proof that God had done anything directly, and thusly interacted with the physical plane, then there must really be a God. and i do NOT believe in miracles. miracles are just luck. a strange occurence that goes in your favor. however, as of now, i see the bible as a popular novel written many many years ago. and i see God as a figure head of this novel. proove me otherwise.
Nyarlathotep Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Guys (and girls if any), this is a thread of Nav, asking something to Gob. If you want to discus religion, please create your own thread. It's been asked several times, please follow the (unwritten) rules. And again, if so many of you dislike Nav, please use the ignore feature (it's there for a purpose). If you don't, read his posts (or don't), but stop flaming him.Nav, if you want something from someone in particular, please use IM. It's been asked several times, please follow the (unwritten) rules.
Edric O Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Way to go TMA. Attacking a fellow Christian. You did not even READ my post. I said:I chose my own religion, and my parents are agnostics. I chose Christianity because it is the Religion of Love. Love for God and Love for your fellow man. Love for Humanity. There is nothing greater than this.There is too much darkness in your hearts. And only you can change that. Not with the doctrines of some corrupt Church, but pure human Love.Love Mankind.Which is supported by:And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.- Mark 12:30-31But you know what? You can sulk in your own misery. Christianity is dying, and still you want us to fight among ourselves! All christians must stand united, or we WILL fall! You are a short-sighted fool, TMA, and it is fools like you that will see our religion reduced to a small insignificant speck.Satan must be loving this.Divide et impera.
Navaros Posted November 10, 2002 Author Posted November 10, 2002 Nyar you have a good point however Gob has publically shamed me by denying me credit and thanks for *my* brilliant idea so I had to make this one public for that reason.Nyar is right though, all you guys who always spam every single one of my threads - knock it off!
TMA_1 Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 christ decides what happens. and yeah I have been spamming sorry about that.
Gobalopper Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Nav if anything you should thank me for not banning you. I still don't see your point, you may have first came up with the idea but you didn't make it.
Edric O Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Maybe I should resign myself to the inevitable. Christianity as a major world religion is doomed.But I dread the day when people with this kind of "logic" will rule the world:LOL just look how stupit you sound edrico. U actually believe there is a thing as GOD? Well.. then im sure, u LOST it..Ah well, narrow is the path to salvation...I will now shut up about religion in this topic. :-X
Navaros Posted November 10, 2002 Author Posted November 10, 2002 Gob that is a very unfair thing to say. Just because you stole my idea and gave me no credit for it because I didn't personally implement it that doesn't mean it's yours and that I deserve no credit. That's unethical.
Nyarlathotep Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 This is really starting to piss me off.Nav, if you need to discuss this further, IM Gob, that's what it's there for. Also, lock this thread. All others, create your own thread and discus things there.
Terror Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 hmmm horay for gob, or something like that....;)ok Navaros' you're a nice guy, but that's it.... aren't we exciting enuff to be irritated by an uberperson like you? so you think you've grown in rank and are now allowed to take on the administrator!
Gobalopper Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 Well suggesting it but not implementing it doesn't make it yours either.
nemafakei Posted November 10, 2002 Posted November 10, 2002 "Just because you stole my idea and gave me no credit for it because I didn't personally implement it that doesn't mean it's yours and that I deserve no credit"Nav, Gob implemented an idea that you happened to mention on the board. That is all. Gob may wish to thank you for his suggestion, but he may also wish to blame you for making its implementation a necessity. So he does not owe you an apology.
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