Inoculator9 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 If you mean the Ottomans then your wrong. They did not control Russia. And they didn't control all of those countries at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Yes they did.During the reign of sullyman the magnificnt...If memory serves me right...somewhare between 1530 and 1630.I didnt say all of russia. I said some southern parts of it. IE the parts of russia between the georgian sates and crimea, russia didnt even exist in 1530 if memory serves me right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 All who surrender will be spared;whoever does not surrender but opposes with struggle and dissension, shall be annihilated.--Genghis Khan no, if khan besieged a city and the city tried to defend himself all inhabitants, i say ALL inhabitants, woman, children, cripple were as good as dead since once khan got trough into the city he murdered every single person in the city, they did this in russia and china, killing thousands of people just because of vengeance. genghis khan was an assExactly, they did not surrend so death would be their destiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 If you mean the Ottomans then your wrong. They did not control Russia. And they didn't control all of those countries at the same time.The did try control them, but the area they conquer is so big, controlling them efficiently is almost impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 that is why all empires sooner or later fall apart.But they did conqur and hold there territories for quite awhile.And put down many rebelions.but that is not why there empire crumbled...it was sorta corput :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Their empire did fall very soon, but that started after Khan's death.Did Khan have any sons? If no and memory serves me right, the Mogolian's generals took that lands for themselves after Khan's death and thats how the empire fell ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 khan is the mongolian leader, genghis khan means something like genghis the leader or something like that but anyway the ottomans made a great empire but just look at the size of asia and the mongolian empire also conquered most of the middle east, almost asia in a whole and eastern europe, do i need to say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Errrmmm.... I think we all know that. So its unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 What about the Huns? I don't know much about what Attila did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 It's not as important that I win as that others will lose.-Attilla the hun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 What about the Huns? I don't know much about what Attila did. Attila? Who's he? I haven't even heard of this person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoculator9 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Attila the Hun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Atilla was the leader of the germanic tribe that attacked the Roman empire from within, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Germanic? You mean German? Did the Germans destroy Roman Empire??!! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 I mean germanic. And the western roman empire did fall in the hands of germanic tribes (more like scavengers of a nearly dead empire), if memory serves me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usul Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 The Huns were quite like the Mongols as they were all mounted and used mounted archers. They were different because the Mongols knew what tactics were and had better technology. And yes it was the Huns who brought about the fall of the western Roman Empire (the eastern side continued for a while but was soon conqured by the newly founded Muslim religion and from there they went on to conquer from the miidle east, africa and the south part of Spain). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 I dont know how you consider "soon"Byzantine Rome lasted till 1353 when my boys the ottomans took constinaople 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 When it comes to the fall of an empire, even a few years could be considered as "soon".Its like say the earth would "soon" be burnt by the sun in 100 years time, do you consider it to be soon? I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 wel ya gota give props to the byzantinethey lasted quite awhile....but like so many others...were crushed under the ottoman hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Ottoman? Now who are they and what did they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 The Ottoman Empire begain around 1200 AD. It soon was able to control centeral Ankara.(took it from the byzantines in a bloody battle)There empire slowly started growing.Chipping away at the byzantine empire. Taking Romaina,Bulgaria,GreeceAnd isolating Constinople.In 1353 they seiged constinople for the final time. The byzantine empire died when it was taken.The otts moved the capital from Ankara to Constinople after its capture.They begain slowly advaning across europe and the middleast.But there main expansion did not come untill sully man the magnificntaround 1530 A.DUnder his command they took the majority of the balkin states.Seiged Viena(twice)Completly conqured the black sea region.ect.They lasted all the way past ww1(they were allied with the Austiran-Hungarian empire and Germany)Ottoman history is quite intersting. You should go read up on them..There battle strats were also quite well. :)foolish byzantines...fall under ottoman hand 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Yeah the Ottoman empire lasted pretty long but it crumbled when the people of the Balcan wanted independance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Wow.... quite a successful empire. But they chose the wrong ally. But it did seem at first the German and Janpanese will win the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Actully they put down many rebelionsIE Vlad the Impaler(those peasents had it coming) tried to win indepence from the ottomans....but couldn'this cousin tossed him in jail..he escaped..retoke the thrown for a matter of weeks and died in battle.Same was repeated many times across the empire.But it wasnt military that they were lacking.it was econemy. They decalred bankruptsy in 1860. odd...that a nation lasted another 60 years after declaring bankrupsty.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usul Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 He said WWI. Japan was on our side then not on Germany's as in the second World War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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