Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Is there any resemblance between Dune and Lord of the Rings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Guerrilla Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 No, only that they both are very complex worlds outside of that you really can't compare the two to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 22, 2002 Author Share Posted April 22, 2002 But had Frank Herbert read LotR before he wrote Dune? Many names in LOTR are like the ones in Dune.Like Sauron isn't quite that different from Sardaukar :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 Well in a sense both are heavily researched worlds created by the writers (Tolkien and Herbert). Both have some eastern influence more evident in Herbert's Dune than Tolkien's LOTR. Both writers used great efforts to make each of their worlds believable. Each one of the two worlds created by Tolkein and Herbert are different than each other. Tolkien's (LOTR) is fantasy and Herbert's (Dune) is sci-fiction if they have to be categorized. As far as the name comparison between Sauron and sardaukar that could be true but they have different functions all together. This is the basis of why I think the two are not similar to one another (characters, settings, groups of people and over all story) you can't compare the Hobbits and the Fremen, nor Arrakis and Middle Earth, Sauron and Shaddam there all very different. If Herbert did read LOTR before writing Dune I do not see where and how it influenced his novels. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryphon Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 There was a topic about the the differences between them. Have been looking for it but can't find it.Does anyone know what the topic was ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted April 22, 2002 Author Share Posted April 22, 2002 But Sauron and Vladimir ain't that different 8)By the way thanks for the answer quoudam, it explained a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefud Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 Nope, I haven't heard of this topic before... :-/I think anyone could start a search to compare names and other things with other which resembles to them...This leads nowhere I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidiware Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Vladimir is a russian (and east european name)...Why are they always doomed to be bad guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 Well, they aren't always doomed to be the bad guys. Why would you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 in david lynch's version of the film, they were definately made out to be evil. But in the miniseries, they just resembled politicians that were from another country. I always thought that the Harkonnens were evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 In lOTR you have Sauron, who represents everything that is evil (though he is a mere servant of evil). The Harkonnens are evil, but do not represent evil. And they were eradicated in the first nove (I think- I have yet to read it) so there is no such thing as pure evil in Dune but there is in LOTR. Dune is thus more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 Muad'Dib, anyway he's quarter-Harkonnen, was showed as evil in later Dune novels. In Heretics he's showed as catastrophical end of Bene Gesserit plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 No resemblance. Sauron and Sardaukar are very different. Otherwise, every word starting with S and with a D are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Muad'Dib considered evil? Just by Bene Gesserit I assume?His grandfather was baron Harkonnen, so he's quarter Harkonnen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Bene Gesserit sister were main characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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