Real rulers of the world

[Caid Ivik]

There are rumors, that todays governments are just dolls in hands of older orgasitations - there are many candidates: Templars, Freemasons, aliens, MJ12, Iluminates and so on. Give me some information, or contact, if you have  ;)

[Terror]

well.. it's actually senator palpatine who rules the universe.... but i'm the only one who knows... but soon we will show everyone who are the true masters

[gryphon]

There was a site about this, call "theyrule.org" or something like that. But I believe it was hacked some months ago, mayby even a year or more by now.

Anyway, it had some nice poeple on it. Mostly with a lot of money, invluance in several different companies and branches. Like Bill Gates, who does only provide computer software of most if not all of the worlds most important nations and companies, also has a thust found, makes medicine. Some Japanease companies that appear to be several individuals are axcually one. And it appears they are supplying to consumers, government, military, space agency's. There product range also varries from technical equipment to medicine and social care.

Now this doesn't mean there is a conspiracy, just that some companies / people have a lot of influance.

[Timenn]

? you mean doesN'T

There could be alot of consperacy, but that's just a dream I think. People thinking they are ruled by a 'greater' force. Hmmm, sounds familiar...

[Anathema]

There IS a conspiracy. For some reason heads of almost all important organisations plot together.

[X-files theme plays in background]

Are they aliens? Are they mind controlled? We don't know. But we will find out. The truth is out there, Scully- eeeh...Caid_Ivik.

;D

[Emperor Harkonnen]

Of course there is another ruler.....it is Yuri mind controlling us all....he is the man who decides everything, every move we make, everything

[nemafakei]

I can guess what Jacob's contribution to this conversation will be...

Well, to an extent, many of us have democracy: Power of the general populace. Problem is, the general populace don't know how to control the country, so they elect people to do it for them. Which is fair enough, until you realise that these people quickly become experts not in running countries, but in getting elected. Therein lies the problem...

[gryphon]

On the fact that there are conspiracies I can agree with you. Look at cartels.

But aliens ?!

Do you realy think that politicians run the country, or make the important desissions about our everyday regular life ?

And it should have been "doesn't", changed it.

[undsputed]

You crazy bastard   ::)

[Caid Ivik]

So, it seems like you haven't found anything yet. :(

[Terror]

sounds a lot like battlezone

[quoudam72]

You people should stay off those drugs, they are doing terrible things to your mind. And to think the money your parents spent on your education and this is the best you could come up with now ever last one of you need to come up with better ideas as to are who the real rulers of the world. You guys really disappoint me. Where is Edric O when you need him he knows the answeer to this question?

[gryphon]

You people should stay off those drugs

and this is the best you could come up with now ever last one of you need to come up with better ideas as to are who the real rulers of the world.

Stay of drugs ? You probbebly drink more coffee then I do ;)

And the second, you are suggesting you have a better idea ?

For undsputed, terror and Caid Ivik. I havn't got a clue about what you could possibly mean ?

[Terror]

we were just fooling around....

but about that battlezone thing.. it's a game... and the background in that game is that the americans and russians are already in space for a while and they're fighting a war there without the people on earth knowing anything about it.... and in battlezone 2 the russians and americans work together to kill some aliens who have found their way to our solar system

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

About aliens its redicilous. I mean, if aliens want take us over they didn`t waisting time for our goverment. But army could have alien technology in 51 Area and try use it as weapon. Army has it`s own purposes, not nessesary the same as goverment. And goverments could be in hand "money-makers". They sell weapon and illegal things and if they give some percent from prifit to some important persons, they could still do their thing without being afraid they will have problems with police.

[Caid Ivik]

Area 52? I know only about scout drone test site 51.

There are rumors, that in 51 is hidden Nazi "Vril" fighter. Hm, you as German should know something about it, Gunseng ;)

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

I haven`t authorization to talk about such things. But I have specification of people who knows too much. ;)Btw. first heard.I just typed wrong letter. Already modified.

[gunner154]

First things first: No one rules the world as a person.

Democratic countries have people to govern the country.

Dictatorship-based/Communist countries have a monarch to rule the country.

Remember: No one rules the world as a person. In fact, no one rules the world.

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Organisations have a kind of power, but not rules. President sometimes haven`t control in fact if talking about army, FBI, CIA or organisations from another countries.

[Terror]

I think it's hard to tell who is the ruler of a country... Bush may be the US president now.... but if the people don't agree with him he's alone and no one will follow him.... At least, this should be the case. The problem though is that the government often hides things from the people with certain reasons. And I must admit that this does worry me.

[Acriku]

So you would like that the government tell the public everything? ::) That would hurt national security greatly and could result in people dying (with the new info the public has, the mob for example would now know where so-and-so was, and kill him, this is an example as there are more scenarios). They hide it for a reason, and it's a damn good reason. The public doesn't need to know anything, if it will hurt national security or an ally, it will be kept secret and that's that. Build a society as powerful as many of the countries today, where the government shares everything, and see how long you would last.

[Navaros]

Big "business" rules the world.If they are poisoning your food and water, toxifying your air, or legally murdering your fellow human beings, then chances are they are playing a big part in ruling the world. The worse - the more evil - the things are that they do, the more power they have in terms of ruling the world.

[nemafakei]

Um.

I have a worse thought. One which is also true.

No-one rules the world. We are a collection of fairly unstable factions (like big businesses, religions, countries, NATO, UN, EU, NAFTA, etc...)

Between them, they each fight for power. There is no real direction that motivates the whole human race except survival of individuals. Survival of the race as a whole is no longer foremost in all our minds, partly as a result of being as aware as we are of our own nature (self-analysis etc).

[Gunseng_Harkonnen]

Nobody rules the whole word, its impossible, becouse we have many individual structures and countries. But some men (I don`t talk about organisations and goverments) can have bigger power than others, even than struycture, becouse they have money(they can buy justice, influence on important global decission), religion influence (mainly they can influence on people behavior, this one sometimes is dangerous)or have big authoritet. But it doesn`t give global power. CIA, FBI can have their own purposes and can hide them from prewsident but they still can`t control all people. It would be more like this if we had global goverment (one big country) but there still be disturbing factors. People in fact are rebelious and their priorities change very often.

[Duneguy]

Hmmm... a good place to drop in a few lines about what i turely think.. this is mostly to united states polotics but has to do with lots, i believe that most of the worlds goverment has an organization behind it.... its all rather simple... they grow up rich, learn the way of the stock market and real estate, make billions. sell arms to both sides of a war, share information to each side about new weapons, then provide the counter weapon, just keep that up you will be a very rich person or organization. after you have so much money you make contacts.. sometimes in high places.. black mail is defineatly an option. what is every polatician afraid of.. something happening uncovering somethign they thought they covered up years ago.. a wife addicted to heroin... a trip to a whore house.. everything one person does can control other people, or grant them control. there can be conacts everywhere... spies everywhere. war.. thats all the goes on these days.. not just th combat war, war of tch buisnesses and such.. constant mergers and hostile take overs.. control the stock market, control the country.. supply and demand, cut down the supply and create a greater demand... that means more money and CONTROL...well i have lots more to say on this topic but i wish not to bore you. lol if ya want to hear more just saylolhrmm here is an idea.. spell check...