I just cast my vote for Bush.

[emprworm]

Voted absentee today.

[Inoculator9]

I respect your freedom to hate Bush and America.  So with that, I just want to say best wishes and I hope that one day, you will see that the richest men on earth are the ones who espouse socialism (Kerry is 10 times richer than bush.  Sorros the anti-capitalist, is a multi billionare.  Hollywood, the wealthiest region on the planet, is overwhelmingly anti-bush and anti-capitalist.)  I could give you a list a mile long of millionaire socialists who hate capitalism and Bush. These are just facts.  You cannot argue them, because they are facts.

You condescend poorly, but the foundation of your so well defended position is one of lies. You, like so many others, are blind to the facts. I saw not one actual fact in your statement... but of course, that mile long list could have been written in size 100 font. Who knows? The Republicans in government, do not in fact present facts, but nebuluous ideas and arguments that one cannot truly address because... they have no substance.

Bush will at any given time say something to the effect that outsourcing needs to be stopped... but how? Is it us socialists defending free enterprise? :D Is it us socialists saying we need to create a better atmosphere for corporations here, rather then penalize them? Because the 'liberal' position... held by this socialist, obscenely rich Kerry... is one of capitalism and free enterprise.

Cheers, congratulations on your vote, and I hope the sky rocketing debt and unemployment comfort those newly homeless and medicationless Americans come 2008.

[Egeides]

I love you emprworm. And still disagree with ad hominem and generalizations.

[nemafakei]

"

  Cobb, David - Green Party 

  Nader, Ralph - Independent 

  Brown, Walt - Socialist Party

"

Interesting that you assume the test shows more about Fed2k than the US electoral choice. How many of those results were expected, I wonder.

[Dante]

And no, I'm not back.  This is just an isolated post

Good. Stay away and don't bring your hypocrisy back. *Mutter mutter,* Still forgetting I'm more right wing than he is. *Mutter mutter*

[VigilVirus]

So with that, I just want to say best wishes and I hope that one day, you will see that the richest men on earth are the ones who espouse socialism (Kerry is 10 times richer than bush.

[ordos45]

I'd just like to say "I was right" that he'd be back in time for the Election.  Thank you.  Oh and still undecided, I can vote early, but thought I'd wait for the actual day for a first time.

[Anathema]

Seeing as how Emprworms resides in Canada, in wich state will his vote be counted?

[Dude_Doc]

Bush, who has done an amazing job, who is a dignified, honorable man with integrity and a heart for freedom and democracy, will demonstrate once again his qualities of leadership.  I will rejoice at his victory.

What about caring for those who need help and food in his own country? That is also the responsibility of a leader.

I know that most people in here, like the rest of the youth/collegiate/youngsters in this world hate bush with a passion.  But youth are always the same.  they hated Reagan, they hated Roosevelt for entering the war, they hated it when the US invaded Normandy.

You're confusing us with neo-Nazis. Just because we don't like Bush, does that mean that we hate everything American? Just because I hate Nazis, does that mean I hate all Germans and everything German? Think again, pleace.

The youth always protest war, thinking that freedom can somehow come for free (when in reality, freedom is bought with blood, always).

It must be a really terrible world you're living in. It never mattered to you what the United Nations said, or what other countries wanted, what other people wanted?

White hemp-smoking, party-going, elite Europeans sit on their high horse and condemn the US for going into Afghanistan, for example, calling Bush evil.  yet tell that to the 15 million Afghans that just cast a vote for the first time in their lives.  europeans let their bush/america hatred blind their ability to think reasonably and morally.  15 million Afghans voted, when they never would have if the hateful Europeans had their way.

There are different views on this. You can't simply blame all of Europe just because three countries was against it.

Thank you, Bush, for setting captive slaves free.  You have done well, and you have my vote.

Unfortunately, Bush has failed in capturing Osama bin Laden, he has failed his own national economy, the people and he has basically shut the world out. I'm sorry, Bush won't make it another four years.

And no, I'm not back.  This is just an isolated post (there is too much hatred in these rooms as I once had a post locked for 'xenophobia'- an example of the bigotry exercised in the administration of this forum).

Then go back to your militia-white-people-only-fascism-behind-the-freedom-talk place and never come back here again.

There is no tolerance in this forum for those of us who endorse Bush, because hatred overcomes objectivity here.

Oh, wow, how objective has this one been throughout his time here?

I respect your freedom to hate Bush and America.

You're wrong. Bush is not America.

[nemafakei]

"White hemp-smoking, party-going, elite Europeans sit on their high horse and condemn the US for going into Afghanistan, for example, calling Bush evil...

There are different views on this. You can't simply blame all of Europe just because three countries was against it"

Emprworm wasn't blaming all of Europe. He regularly fails to refer to more than a handful of people, if you look closely. Emprworm has no criticism for nonwhite europeans, non-stoned europeans, non-party-goers, and non-elites, who justly criticise Bush's conduct.

"Then go back to your militia-white-people-only-fascism-behind-the-freedom-talk place and never come back here again."

I take it that this is a parody? If so it's a good one. If not, oh, dear.

[SurlyPIG]

Seeing as how Emprworms resides in Canada, in wich state will his vote be counted?

I'm guessing his home state of Washington.

[nemafakei]

I forgot to point out...

"It would seem boring to me to have a forum where, in a recent thread, every single person except one chooses the following 3 candidates as their top picks for president out of a list of more than 20"

This comes from an ardently patriotic expat of a country where over 95% of voters consistently pick one of two almost identical parties... better a socialist questioning socialism than a nation of individualists blindly voting for corporationism.

[Wolf]

Nema... what's that Arabic in your signature say?

Anathema; Emprworm's vote will be counted in the state he was formely a resident of.

[nemafakei]

Offtopic:

يا حيا گبلپر

RPLPG AYH AY

YA HYA GBLPR

Ya Hya Gobalopper

[emprworm]

I'm guessing his home state of Washington.

:D

[ordos45]

Actually, the list is far narrower than 20 in my state.  Only four made it to the ballot (I just glanced at the list online), Bush, Kerry, Nader, and Badnarik.

[thomas]

emprworm, I pity you. You fail to realize why the youth dislike war, it's because we're the ones out there dying. In WWII there were lines going as far as the eye could see infront of the recruiting offices, people wanted to fight. In vietnam no one wanted to fight differance is, one was a just cause the other wasn't, like Iraq.

[otheymzefedaykin]

I'm not dreaming ? Here is Emprworm !

How is Canada ? Have you study french, Tabernac ?:D (No, I think you prefer die ^^)

But Bush is not America (it's better than) !

freedom is bought with blood, always

Oh...of course, but not only...

Hitler bought freedom ?

[Dunenewt]

they hated it when the US invaded Normandy.  The youth always protest war, thinking that freedom can somehow come for free (when in reality, freedom is bought with blood, always).  White hemp-smoking, party-going, elite Europeans sit on their high horse and condemn the US for going into Afghanistan, for example, calling Bush evil.  yet tell that to the 15 million Afghans that just cast a vote for the first time in their lives.  europeans let their bush/america hatred blind their ability to think reasonably and morally.  15 million Afghans voted, when they never would have if the hateful Europeans had their way.

And I used to take you seriously...

[exatreide]

"White hemp-smoking, party-going, elite Europeans sit on their high horse and condemn the US for going into Afghanistan"

Uh empworm...you cant smoke hemp buddy  ;)

[Dunenewt]

Only us *Europeans* can,  :D.

[TMA_1]

hmm, I tend to agree that empr has a problem with tact, but then again I do sometimes too. I understand where empr is coming from, though he is just being a bit too generalistic. Not all europeans are uber-liberals, and not all white europeans are pot smoking hippies.lol I mean nema explained it better, it is a sharp example of steriotypes and over generalization.

BUT, I do agree that there is an extreme amount of arrogance against people who are traditionalists in america, and there is a lot of "nose thumbing" that goes on. It is trendy to be liberal these days and so many people who go back to basics and go towards conservative values are looked upon as dumb swine, which makes me sad because in many ways I am a conservative. I mean that word is perfect for many of us who want to conserve our old values and ways of living. Sometimes in history we need new and broad sweeping ideas that change our society, sometimes we need new and liberal ideas to get away from too much stagnation. On the other hand though sometimes we need to slow down, and sometimes we can go too far in trying to go too liberal.

I dont exactly like bush, but he is a hell of a lot better in my opinion than Kerry. kerry is honestly not that liberal at all, and honestly he can be just as fiscally conservative as bush, and that bothers me. Kusinich would have been a better candidate I think. He at least, though liberal, was fiscally liberal as well. I myself am liberal when it comes to how the government should tax the people (tax the rich a bit more than the poor, and so on, being generalistic, but am trying to give you an idea of what I am coming from) and should use that money for the betterment of the down trodden. At the same time though I am conservative socially in many ways.

I am voting for bush, and many other republicans. I am also voting for many democrats in the local elections, where I know we need some of that liberal compassion, and where I know it iwll make the most difference. to me though bush would be so much better than kerry.

also I hate when people bring up the argument that osama has not been captured, therefore bush is at fault and is not a good leader. I can promise you that if kerry had been in office nothing would have been different. I am not going to fall into idealism, whre I would believe that kerry would have done better. Too much sentimentalism has invaded the american people, as well as the world at large. People seem to forget that bush is not as bad as people think, they just like to demonize bush because that is the easy way out. Bush ahs indeed made many mistakes, but honestly many presidents have done worse. Its just that people are trying to find an ew president because they want the "good old days" back. In reality though those good old days were really not as "good" as people remember them. It is one of those things that people have been suffering from for millenia, trying to restore the past even though the past is not as good as people remember it. Also bush is just the president, and people seem to forget that presidents dont have all the power, in fact the president has very little power in many fields of government. You guys should also be blaming congress as well, and also you guys should be blaming the executive cabinet, which have made the majority of mistakes.

[desert_storm]

bush sucks

[SpiceGuid]

to me US elections looks like:

* with Bush you have Irak

* with Kerry you have Irak plus gay marriage

and polls in France prove we are pro-gay-marriage  >:(

[Andrew]

What's wrong with gay marriage?

The only thing I find wrong is that if the "church" does not support gay marriages, then they should not have to perform them, but if the state or government gives out "marriage" licences (as a legal document only that shows that they are partners, which would give them the same rights as "normal" married couples, ie. tax breaks etc) then I have no problem.

What's wrong with allowing a person to believe in a certain religion and performing their religious rites etc?

Gay marriage is inevitable, just like discrimination based on sexual preference is not allowed.

You should see ads that were in the paper in the 60's compared to today. They were so discriminatory it's quite funny.

I love how they say that Iraq was close to building nuclear weapons etc, and yet they have found no proof since invading Iraq. But North Korea now has WMD potential, and I did not think that they and the US were friends. Should have invaded Korea, not Iraq. oops no oil in korea, oops no "terrorists" in korea (at least none that they can blame US problems on). It's all political and economical reasons.

Maybe in the long run Iraq will be better off, but I am guessing it will only piss off a lot of people in the short run.