Mozilla FireFox

[gryphon]

Guys. When do you learn. . . ;)

And each website can have it's own set of preferences. That's why my online bank thinks I am using IE, why Fed2K lists me as FireFox. And why the rest of the web knows I use the most advanced browser on the planet ;)

(which sadly still has problems with tables and certificates :P )

[erjin999]

...And that is Opera ?  ???

[Timenn]

Yes, that is Opera...

Opera does has it flaws, you know gryphon. Remember that particular site where you tried to resize the text, and by making it smaller you eventually ended up resizing an image in the background? ;)

I also thought Opera wasn't free (not in the sense that it doesn't cost money), Firefox is. Hence all the extensions which are dowloadable. There are some that make browsing hell of a lot easier...

[gryphon]

Opera indeed still has flaws.

Just like Linux, all the good stuff in live is free. And so is Opera. :)

You can download the Windows version for free, just have to pay for the mobile and device versions. And on my HP travelmate the 20 Euro's is worth it compared to pocket IE...

[erjin999]

Until about 3 months ago I also thought it was charged for. Has this been a recent change ? 3 months ago someone istalled it infront of me and I said "have you paid?" to which the reply was "you dont need to". Thats when I realised.

Now I might have considered it if I wasnt already hooked on FF..

[Megashrap]

I just rebooted my PC a bit ago, and when I went to load up firefox my damn bookmarks vanished.

Any Idea what the f**k happened? it was after a simple update of java.

[thesnake]

allwayes save ure bookmarkes page

[Andrew]

Check the default place your your firefox bookmarks are supposed to be.

C:Documents and Settings*user*Application DataMozillaFirefox

In there somewhere.

[Megashrap]

Check the default place your your firefox bookmarks are supposed to be.

C:Documents and Settings*user*Application DataMozillaFirefox

In there somewhere.

Thanks, but I tried that. Seems they just vanished into oblivion after that update. Ah well live n learn I guess. Just never had that happen with Firefox before.  :- No big loss really, more of just an annoyance than anything else.

[Timenn]

With "free" I didn't mean free of charge (no money), but the other concept of free. For example, software under GPL is free, meaning that you are free to modify and distribute it (and more...).

I don't think Opera is free in that way.

[erjin999]

I think it is free in terms of

[Timenn]

You probably won't modify the software yourself. But I think you do use extensions in Firefox, meaning you use content created by people who were able to modify the software.

[erjin999]

And even that I only do becuase its free (

[gryphon]

Until about 3 months ago I also thought it was charged for. Has this been a recent change ? 3 months ago someone installed it in front of me and I said "have you paid?" to which the reply was "you don't need to". That's when I realised.

Opera has been free of charge from version 9 I believe.

And you can't edit the source code of Opera, although if you register as a developer with Opera you can write plugins for the software.

[erjin999]

Me is happy  ;D...

I was reading about complaints about FF v3 being bloated way too much. I think it was on the BBC site.

[erjin999]

Firefox updated !

Andrew, forward notice of these things is appreciated !  :D

[Andrew]

:P I would have but I didn't see anything at all in changelog that was important.

[erjin999]

Well its unnerving when I get an update and you haven't warned me first !  ;)

[Andrew]

firefox 2.0.0.5 has been released. Nothing new. Just security updates.

[Andrew]

firefox 2.0.0.6 has been released. Nothing new. Just security updates.

[erjin999]

Received them both before hearing about them from you! You are losing your touch, old man!

Noticed the Java Runtime doesn't seem to be compatible(?) or so it says on the update screen. Not felt any problems yet.

[Andrew]

Yah, I've had that java thing for the last couple builds but it works as far as I can tell.

I'm too busy working to be on top of this stuff (50 hours last week in 40 degree weather working outside). Although I can tell you miranda 0.7 RC will be released in a couple weeks. 0.7 will be the biggest change in miranda ever (it might actually be good for the general public to use). I'll post in software thread when it is released.

[erjin999]

Cool, I knew there would be a reason you were falling behind. I might try to warn once it has happened to me (updates, that is).

[Andrew]

Anyone get the bug where a bookmark gets an icon that is not the correct one? Takes an icon completely not related to the webpage and takes it from another website? I think it might have to do with timeouts and trying to reconnect to websites. This happens mostly with my bookmarks that I have on the bookmarks toolbar.

Any way to manually change icon? The only fix is to delete the bookmark and add it again for me.

Actually I think it mostly happens with bookmarks that don't have an icon.

[erjin999]

I have not had that problem at all and I have quite a few of the little buggers.