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Diablo 2: lord of destruction (still play it)

star craft (because of its constant replayability with moded maps)

Ut2k4

Zelda(duh!)

any Mario game(you can tell i was a nintendo child)

i have no idea what my favorite game of all time would be...

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The story is pretty incredible so far. If this game were a book, I wouldn't been chatting with you all right now, I'd be halfway done.

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since everyone is putting manny games on the list i will give some to

this games i realy love

resident evil code veronica (dreamcast)

final fantasy 7 , 8 and tactics (playstation)

metal gear solid (playstation)

golden axe (arcade)

elevator action (arcade)

moom patrol (arcade)

galaga (arcade)

robotron (arcade)

black and withe (pc)

sacrifice (pc)

freelancer (pc)

emperor batle for dune (pc)

ferrari f355 chalenge (dreamcast) & (arcade)

dune 2000 (pc)

far cry (pc)

super metroid (super nintendo)

metroid II (game boy)

metroid (nes)

about something:

the gba metroids are cool to but after playng zero mission and fusion i realise that they are tooo eazy and metroid is good because is hard... in the super nes version wen u are near the end u see a scarry world but samus in this level is well armed so u feel good enouth to take all the risks... in fusion near the end the world is easy and samus are crappy weack...

final fantasy 9 is cool to. but only for the strategy involved in make your characters strong... the storyline grafics and inspiration are gone

final fantasy tactics for the gba is a piece of %

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I couldn't agree more.Ā  But if it were a book, you'd miss out on some of the finest in-game music to ever grace my inner ears.

Well said. That game has some of the best music ever.

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I just beat Deus Ex. Great game.

I noticed a ton of smiliarties between Deus Ex and Metal Gear Solid 2, though. Secret Societies, massive AIs that can control the Internet, the Internet playing a huge role in the plot. Raidain/Snake/JC also think and act much in the same way, and gameplay is also similar, with an emphasis on stealth over run-and-gun. However, in Deus Ex, there's a good deal more gunning -- and freedom of choice in how you want to play the game. Multiple endings are nice, too.

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All three... the Helios ending seemed to have the best result, but Tracer Tong's was cool, too. The Everett ending is cool/badass.

Oh, what's the deal with all the space aliens running around?

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Necroticon, please use the [ hide ] [ /hide ] tags when creating posts like that.

[hide]I liked the Illuminati ending the best.Ā  I really liked the whole Illuminati/Knights Templar/Majestic 12 aspect of the game.Ā  Plus, as I recall, the Illuminati ending had the best music.

The Helios Ending was pretty neat, too.Ā  One thing I really liked about the game was the political philosophy involved.Ā  JC often had some pretty interesting arguments with Jock, Dowd, Tong, or the Hong Kong bartender (who really reminds me of Ratz from Neuromancer).Ā  The Helios aspect touches on the 'Enlightened Despot/Philosopher King' idea.

I thought the Tong ending was a bit weak.Ā  It was fun, and interesting, but it really made no sense.Ā  I mean, an urban society wouldn't easily just revert to living in villages if the phones went dead.

And the Greys were clones of the one found at Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 (surely you've heard of the Roswell incident?).Ā  Because they were simply clones, they have no knowledge of their homeworld, spaceship, or its technology.Ā  As one of the A51 workers said, they're merely "monkeys".Ā  Grey, hairless, bubble-eyed, radioactive, psionic monkeys.[/hide]

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Yes, please do.

Now, about Deus Ex...

[hide]I liked the secret society aspect a whole lot, too, reminded of Metal Gear Solid II. The AIs, Icarus, Daedalus, and Helios, also added some interesting aspects to the game.

About the Greys... I'm not sure if they really are from the Roswell crash. Even though the technician says that they might be from the crash, he says it sarcastically, and that for all he knows, the Greys might just be monkeys without hair. If you read datacubes and books in Area 51, you see references to "the monkeys" and other "transgenics." Now, a transgenic is something with mixed DNA or genes. The Greys, if they truly are transgenics, aren't necessarily clones, but engineered beings in the first place. Also, if you hack the computer in Sector 3, you learn in an email from Lucius DeBeers to Bob Page that there was interest in "recreating" the Grey liform. Implying either that the Greys were created in the first place by Bob Page, or that they were clones of the crash. To me, that means the Greys could either be transgenics created by the demented mind of Bob Page as some sort of joke, or that they really could be clones of an alien species. I prefer to think the former, because introducing aliens into the storyline of Deus Ex not only complicates it, but makes it too much like other dime-a-dozen storylines. Also, if we're talking aliens, how come no one seems especially concerned about them? Not Bob Page, not DeBeers, not anyone who knows. In fact, in the DeBeers email, Lucius is telling Page that the augmentation technology should take precedent above the Grey lifeform's recreation.

I liked the idea of the Tong ending the best, but I think humanity could easily bounce back to where it was. All you do by destroying Area 51 is destroy the Internet. Phones will soon be introduced, as will Network-capable computers, and things will go back to the way they were. The same holds true for the Illuminati ending -- you might as well play the game over again, replace MJ12 with Illuminati, and call it Deus Ex 2.

The Helios ending, of all of them, seems to be the "main" ending. Consider the title of the game; Deus Ex. The first two words of Deus Ex Machina, or, God From The Machine. Consider the quote for the Helios ending; "If there were no God, it would be necessary to create him." Helios/Denton acts very much in this capacity. Besides, this whole ending is predicted by the Morpheus AI, who says that "God is a dream of good government," etc. All in all, you joining with Helios really fits with the theme of the game.[/hide]

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[hide]Well, I wouldn't say the Illuminati ending would force a cycle.Ā  THe Illuminati were meddlesome, yes, but they weren't overtly ambitious.Ā  They simply influenced things from behind the scenes.Ā  That's why Page created MJ12 and left the Illuminati.Ā  He wanted power he could feel.Ā  He wanted to step out of the shadows and rule the world personally.Ā  But the New Illuminati would have JC as a leader.Ā  Again, the "enlightened Despot" idea comes into play.Ā  Although a true Enlightened Despot is a myth, JC seems to be a man with a fairly well-aligned moral compass (well, I guess it all depends on how you play the game).

I think the whole idea of the Greys was in itself a tip of the hat to the secret society aspect of the game.Ā  Conspiracy theorists have a field day with connecting odd events with Illuminati, Freemasons, or the "Men in Black", who of course also have a role in the game, as the combustible agents of Majestic 12.Ā  I thought it was interesting that, even after all this time, the Greys (or clones of the originals, more specifically) were still objects of research (note that Majestic 12 was a real American agency designed to investigate supposed UFO/alien activity).Ā  Same with the "black helicopter" aspect of the game.Ā  Black, seemingly silent/stealthed helicopters went hand in hand with the Men in Black.

I think why they prioritized the augmentation tech over Grey research was that there was really nothing the Greys could tell them about their technology, origins, or disposition toward humanity.Ā  They were merely clones, with no memory or knowledge of their own species.Ā  In essense, if the "real" Greys intended to attack earth, there really wasn't much the "monkeys" could do to help them.Ā  From Page's point of view, the threat of "terrorists" like the NSF and... err... Chad's little band of merry men.Ā  These threats could be addressed, through UNATCO's augmented agents or, in Paris, overtly by MJ12 forces.

Yes, the Helios ending is the "proper" ending, as DX2 continues on assuming JC had merged with Helios.Ā  The debating between the "parlour trick" Morpheus and JC was one of my favourite parts of the game.Ā  Because this is a Dune forum, I should also mention that the Helios ending reminded me very much of Leto II's Golden Path, merging with another force to steer humanity in the right direction.Ā  But how horrible it must have been for JC!

Just out of curiosity, in the Illuminati HQ in Paris - the one with Morpheus - what did you do with the old Illuminatus?[/hide]

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