Navaros Posted February 22, 2004 Author Posted February 22, 2004 Nav I've never claimed to be your friend and have never had any desire to be your friend.And I have no problem debating Nav but if its over his being banned I don't see much of an argument.yes you did... you said i was like your brother once and you also said specifically that we were buddies when i asked you that question.
Gobalopper Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 [14:33] Gobalopper: Nav to me you are like the little brother who is always tugging on your pant leg wanting something... after a while it gets really annoying[14:35] Cyrenius: cool, i'm like your brother! that rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the reason i always want something is cause your website is like my home away from home so i am always interested in all the happenings of itThat is the only time I ever used "brother" when talking to you. Why you think that means I thought you were my brother is beyond me.The simple reason behind you being banned was that you are one of the most annoying posters we have.
GhostHunter Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 In all seriousness Nav, did you ever just think to be happy that you're allowed to post again?
Navaros Posted February 22, 2004 Author Posted February 22, 2004 In all seriousness Nav, did you ever just think to be happy that you're allowed to post again?no.
Gobalopper Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 [20:11] Cyrenius: hey Gob, how come you never wanna be my buddy? [20:15] Gobalopper: Do you want me to be your buddy?[20:16] Cyrenius: yeah. if thats ok with you[20:16] Gobalopper: Sure if you need a buddy, I'm your buddy. :)[20:21] Cyrenius: it seems to me that you think more lowly of me than i am. really i'm a nice guy but i think "the hype" has gotten to you and gave you a warped view of Nav. so we should be buddies so you see how cool i am. i might even be more cooler than some of your current buddies. plus i really love your site, it's like my most favorite site ever. i feel like i belong on fed2k 'cause Emperor is my niche. when i'm not on fed2k for a long time, it's i'm not fulfilled. [20:24] Gobalopper: Nav I really don't know you well enough to form an opinion other then what I have seen on the forums. I don't have a clue what you are like in real life.[20:30] Cyrenius: yeah, tho thing is on the Forums you only see one side of the perspectives. for example, most of the FEW guys on your boards have history with me on WOL and it wasn't good based on what they did to me just as much from what i did to them. then they come to the boards and say i'm making stuff up etc. Which i never did, 'cause we really did have that history on WOL. it's things like that that make it seem that i'm just being a prick for the heck of it when really those ppl were pricks too. or guys like oper90 saying i am a coward etc. even tho i really did beat him in QM quite badly on several occasions and hence he flamed me just because he resented the fact that i am a far better player.... things like that are not things that i make up off the top of my head. if you knew all the factors that come together to make up the character of Nav, i think you would have found Nav to be much more reasonable than what you think from just getting the one perspective from the Forums[20:34] Gobalopper: I just think you and a lot of others too take the game way to seriously, instead of just enjoying it[20:35] Cyrenius: btw i think the storms are gonna keep brewing over my Arohk nick until Nav is restored... you told guys in a few threads to cut it out but certain guys like lowezzee and north41 (shellshock) and Scyalke and ExAtredies are obsessed with me and i think they're gonna keep talking about me being Nav til i do come back as Nav[20:36] Gobalopper: ya but until you do there is plausible denialibility :)[20:38] Cyrenius: heh yeah thats true..... tho i bet the Landsraad are having a big huge debate over it in their secret forum, or if not i bet one will come soon.Uh oh looks like I am your buddy, I must have broken the buddy code by banning you.
SurlyPIG Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 While we're on the subject, why is Nav allowed to post again?
Gobalopper Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 The old ban list went away after the upgrade so they are back for now.
Navaros Posted February 22, 2004 Author Posted February 22, 2004 Uh oh looks like I am your buddy, I must have broken the buddy code by banning you.damn right you did.
Gobalopper Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 I don't think it was a mistake to ban you though.If its wrong to ban "my buddy" then I'm very sorry for doing so.
Navaros Posted February 22, 2004 Author Posted February 22, 2004 I don't think it was a mistake to ban you though.If its wrong to ban "my buddy" then I'm very sorry for doing so.now you sound like a politician - trying to play it like you're "for" both polar opposite sides of an issue. i don't know what to make of that. you are sending a mixed message in your quoted text.
Navaros Posted February 22, 2004 Author Posted February 22, 2004 And might I add that you "broke the buddy code" as well by putting Gob in a position where it was the correct administrative action to ban you.
Apollyon Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 "Emperor is part of my soul. I belong on this site whether I'm annoying or not. It's my destiny to be here. Even if I get banned forever from this site - that is a violation of the natural "Order of Things". "Lol that's hilarious. Anyway, welcome back, Nav. I assume from that that you will be playing emp again?
Ice_Cube Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 Hey people,I am even willing to accept and set aside the fact that Gob is IMO a prick who has/would stab a friend in the back; and continue to exist here despite that - making my valuable and insightful Emperor tips and advice - so long as Gob agrees that he won't ban me/nerf my posts ever again.
Terror Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 Nav, what are you talking about. If he was realy your buddy he wouldn't have banned you... so voila, he was not your buddy. And though you say it was morally incorrect to ban you, i am sure that many members on this forum think otherwise. I don't know what's wrong with you. Could it be a decease? But you such an arrogant stift and your words always speak as if you are better than others. You don't listen, you only complain and throw good arguments away as lies. I don't know who you are trying to convince here. But everyone here is already convinced that you were wrong. So want to be accepted, then change your attitude, because frankly your attitude sucks. now ofcourse you'll reply with: "What did i ever do to you?". But don't you even have the slightest idea of how annoying and arrogant you are? Then you say, you are being banned from boards because people are not realy allowed to tell their opinion. Well honestly, people are allowed to do that. But what you are stating is usually not only an opinion. It is an opinion and a very agressive one might i add. Not an extreme opinion, but way too agressively brought. If someone thinks different. Don't rant at him, either give a good explanation why you think it's different... or leave it like this. At times you claim that your opinion is the only true one, and if someone tries to argue with you, it is only a matter of minutes when the words like "Noob", "Moron", "Flamer" etc. come up again.Well, that's for my part anyway.
Inoculator9 Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 Nav, just because you got Gob to sarcastically say he's your buddy and that you're like a stupid little brother doesn't mean you've got a smoking gun for god's sake :P
EWS Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 Why can't Gob be a dictator to this board? He did create it and he does run it. He can do what ever the fuck he wants, so in the immortal words of Sean Bateman"Deal with it, rock and roll."You remind me of a certain Joeboyz from the ps.com forums
Apollyon Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 I think the point is that, regardless of whether Nav actually is Gob's buddy, Gob has somewhat of a responsibility to his members and his board, and if this means banning someone then so be it and to be fair in that (you seem to pretty big on fairness, Nav) he should not allow personal feelings into it and thus whether you're his buddy or not shouldn't really be relevent. Just settle for the fact that you're no longer banned otherwise you might end up the same again.
Andrew Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 If Gob felt like banning you for no reason again, I'm sure he would have done it before you figured out you could post, that way we would not have to post in these soap opera threads. (But are amusing in the short term.)So basicly all previously banned people are getting a second chance again and again and again, otherwise they would all be banned right now. Hopefully they will be reformed, and if it turns out they are not-then someones gonna press a big red button. :)
thomas Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 how bout we have a Lincoln Douglas debate between the twoNav will be the affirmative saying that gob was wrong to ban himand gob will be the negative saying he was rightful to do so.
Navaros Posted February 22, 2004 Author Posted February 22, 2004 I think the point is that, regardless of whether Nav actually is Gob's buddy, Gob has somewhat of a responsibility to his members and his board, and if this means banning someone then so be it and to be fair in that (you seem to pretty big on fairness, Nav) he should not allow personal feelings into it and thus whether you're his buddy or not shouldn't really be relevent. Just settle for the fact that you're no longer banned otherwise you might end up the same again.yes i am big on fairness.
gryphon Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 I was wondering when a Jezus story would enter this topic. . but Navaros. . with all your insight. . your special unsencored and independed valuable opinions on things. . you forget one big thing .. like Jezus. . like Einstein .. like all the big people who had non-sequatar thoughts
Inoculator9 Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 Jesus was not an honest ass hole Nav, and I doubt that you are the former, while you are undoubtedly the latter.
Navaros Posted February 22, 2004 Author Posted February 22, 2004 Jesus was not an honest ass hole Nav, and I doubt that you are the former, while you are undoubtedly the latter.back that up. explain how i'm an asshole, exactly. being aggressive against those who are aggressive with me does not make me an asshole. standing up for myself when others flame me does not make me an asshole.i do not say anything out of maliciousness or mean-spiritedness. *that* would make me an asshole. i do not see how anything i've ever done on this site would make me an asshole.
zamboe Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 Gob, it seems that you'll have to make the right decision again. I hope its soon.
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