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Timenn

Timenn

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That link you gave is so full of nonsense. Nothing is proved, and it are all unlikely speculations. It's just another theory about conspiracy, just like people say that the Americans didn't went to the moon (but acted it) and that they planned the attacks on 11-09-2001 themselves...

A good counter-answer to that is that you overestimate the skills in organising of the Americans. Do you really think all factions which have to do with it can nicely sit around 1 table?

You are not the only one who is against the ideas of the American government. But you will not be believed (fortunately) if you say that every move of the Americans is a plotted criminal action.

alchemi2

alchemi2

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Saddam ordered the gasing of the Kurds because he needed to try out the effects of gas. He choose the Kurds because they are of a different race, religon and nationality. He blamed the Kurds for many problems in Iraq Just the same as hitler with the Jews.

Saddam was no real friend to the other arab nations he just use their hatred of the west to protect his position and justify his actions.

He tried and failed to invade Iran and did invade Kuwait, if the world had continued to appease him rather than fight then he could easily have become another Hitler afterall we made that mistake with Hitler.

Dust your obviously against the war on Iraq but you cant justify mass murder surely. If its wrong to kill 1 person the killing a 100 doesnt become right cause it wasnt a million

Dante

Dante

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Was that sarcasm?

Dust your obviously against the war on Iraq but you cant justify mass murder surely. If its wrong to kill 1 person the killing a 100 doesnt become right cause it wasnt a million

One death is a tragedy. One hundred is just a statistic.

TMA_1

TMA_1

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geesh, you guys should stop picking on dust so much.

Dust, you seem to have a philosophy that is rather fatalistic, almost like you see things in the large picture without emotion. Did anything cause this?

Also, saddam did commit racist acts of murder, like I said with the kurds and christians up in the mountains of iraq.

Also, what difference is it if you kill somebody out of racism, or out of anger? you are killing the guy, they are both just as evil.

I get sick of the whole hate crimes things, or crimes against humanity, because frankly if guy kills a thousand out of making things easier, and another kills a thousand out of racial hatred, then they are both just as guilty. Since when does racism increase the evil of one who has already killed a thousand brother humans?

Sardauker-Kirov

Sardauker-Kirov

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I hate both Saddam and Bush.

Both of them are evil in their own ways.

But Saddam is a monster compared to Bush.

And you are right, he never cared about the Iraqi people.

They were just a bunch of sheeps and tools to him, if the sheep didn't behave, they will be send to the butcher.

Saddam is much more like a child on the king's throne.

Without any knowledge about governments and ruling the people properly.

He just flapped his arms around and demanded attention...

NeoLogiX

NeoLogiX

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I don't know that ;D,

all i know by supporting Israel I consider as racist back towards GENTILES..

The Orthodoxs Jew such Neturei Kartou does not support Zionis in Israel, what does it mean ?

[quote author=Emperor Harkonnen

....how can he be that? he support many countries. such as Israel. he is certainly not a racist.

leo

leo

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I don't know that ;D,

all i know by supporting Israel I consider as racist back towards GENTILES..

The Orthodoxs Jew such Neturei Kartou does not support Zionis in Israel, what does it mean ?

[quote author=Emperor Harkonnen

....how can he be that? he support many countries. such as Israel. he is certainly not a racist.

more than half of the world support the arabs (even tho' they kill civilians), are they racist too? so there is one country that actually doesnt support any1(USA ISN'T supporting Israel and the Pelestinians as well, they simply support the side that is right so sometimes they make comments to us and sometimes they make comments to the palestinians). But as i see, if there is a country that isn't supporting the Arabs with 100% it's probably a racist one?

nampigai

nampigai

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I would think *Hmm, wonder what'll happen next. Hope this hurts Bush's re-election campaign* And go busy myself elsewhere.

so you don't have any opinion about other people? We should just look the other way when smal african children die of AIDS and loose their mom and dad so they have to support them self?

But sorry I have to ask you, why the hell do you care about Bush's re-election then? You don't live in the USA and according to your little twisted mind you really shouldn't care now should you?

Great thinking DustScout....

Wolf

Wolf

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What angers the most is the people who opposed Bush and CRITICIZED him for NOT catching Saddam. Once Saddam is caught, everyone says "it causes more problems than it starts". I'm not saying anyone here has done that (only YOU know if you have or you havn't, well, I take that back, WE have a pretty good idea if you have) but it angers me that this is what has occured. It seems somewhat fashionable (and easy, I mean, the man almost helps us out) to oppose Bush. Now, I consider myself somewhat moderate and independent from most American partisanship, and I wholeheartedly support informed and reasonable criticism of ANY leadership -- it keeps the politicians honest -- but, when I see people criticising an administration about a certain point, upon which the administration finally comes through, and FURTHER criticises them on this point for either doing it the first place or not doing it sooner, it seems to me that this is wrong. It indicates to me that the person doing the criticizing is ONLY concerned WITH CRITICIZING -- NOT with making the country, or world, or whatever, a better place.

As an American, whenever a President is elected -- and I hold this same view for world leaders in general -- I hope, wish, and pray that the new president, regardless of background, party, or policy, will be the BEST president that the nation has ever had. And why not? The important thing is to help the nation, it doesn't matter who does it (indeed, it seems that people are criticising WHATEVER Bush does, regardless of what was actually done or what it's causes were), as long as it is done.

NeoLogiX

NeoLogiX

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are you afraid of them ?

...perhaps you among of them,

poor Zionist ::), I don't know they're really sensitive ::) ::)

lmao @ Neo!

You're just as bad as that President of yours that just stepped down

Dante

Dante

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I would think *Hmm, wonder what'll happen next. Hope this hurts Bush's re-election campaign* And go busy myself elsewhere.

Good idea ! How about a Library :)

I do go to the library. Point?

Dust, you seem to have a philosophy that is rather fatalistic, almost like you see things in the large picture without emotion. Did anything cause this?

Also, what difference is it if you kill somebody out of racism, or out of anger? you are killing the guy, they are both just as evil.

I get sick of the whole hate crimes things, or crimes against humanity, because frankly if guy kills a thousand out of making things easier, and another kills a thousand out of racial hatred, then they are both just as guilty. Since when does racism increase the evil of one who has already killed a thousand brother humans?

My experience of my fellow humans has been less than perfect. The philosophy runs somewhere along the lines of "If they've done nothing for me I'll do nothing for them." And so far it's worked (Yes, I do have friends). It may be heartless, and sometimes I do feel guilty about it, but I see no reason to change it that would benifit me. Everything I do, I do because it will benifit me or someone I care about. Everyone else either won't or can't do anything for me or them, so neither will I.

I find motive to be a lot of what a crime is. The method in which it is carried out does not bother me so much. Someone is pulled apart with wild horses, someone is beheaded. They both end up just as dead. But motive on the other hand, that's important. So is intent (If you ask me; if there's no intent, there's no crime).

I find all forms of discrimination (and thus killings by discrimination) to be one of the most... dislikable crimes. To have no motive better than dislike or prejudice... That just seems ignorant. And I loathe ignorance. A different motive (such as desire for money or power) may not seem any better to others but for me it is (ever so slightly) more acceptable than discriminatory killings.

so you don't have any opinion about other people? We should just look the other way when smal african children die of AIDS and loose their mom and dad so they have to support them self?

But sorry I have to ask you, why the hell do you care about Bush's re-election then? You don't live in the USA and according to your little twisted mind you really shouldn't care now should you?

Great thinking DustScout....

What's so special about small children? They just annoy me. And I'm closer to being one than many of the people here. Besides, the world is overpopulated enough already. Small children nothing... Have they done anything for me?

And I care about Bush's re-election campaign because it does affect me. The longer that prat stays in power, the longer my country is forced to endure diplomatic relations that are stronger with America than Europe (no offence to Americans, I have nothing wrong with Americans. But I do like the idea of a unified Europe).

My thinking is the way it has been shaped by my enviroment. It suits me fine.

nampigai

nampigai

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I really feel sorry for you, the enviroment you have been raised in must have been VERY ego minded.

Still what influence does Bush have on you person? your country's foreign politics doesn't really affect you?

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