Ive a secret i must now reveal

[gerbilpoo]

im a noob, i suck at emp ... some1 help me

wow i feel alot better now ;D

[lowzeewee]

What is the meaning of this,Mr Anderson? >:(

OK,go read up strats in the Empy Strats board. ;)

[Warskum]

Well first post ur WOL name so I can help ya if I c ya online. Whats ur problem can`t u stop rushes or something give us more info about ur problem so we can help u.

[rigel6669]

Did you read emprworm strategy guide yet?

It has some great tips ...

Goto strategy-emperor-secrets and tips by emprworm on the main page of this site

[Duncan_ghola]

heres a tip, dont go to his website. If you want to get better find some other new guys and practice, persistance is important while playing a game, most new guys dont even try.

[Warskum]

heres an other tip don`t listen to what Duncan sayd about the site, go there but DON`T copy those bo`s just use them to make ur own bo`s.

[gerbilpoo]

my wol name is gerbilpoo and by i suck i mean i simply cant play emp i always end up just hiding in my base waitin to die

[wraith126]

speed and decent unit control is everything ;)

[lowzeewee]

Type of units you use and also,unit-counters also matter.

[Apollyon]

The units you build, within reason, is nothing compared to the importance of speed an d micromanagament.

[lowzeewee]

Massing also works... :D

[Warskum]

First be agressive, try to attack fast and not to defend.

This is a regular building order: windtrap, baracks, refainry, factory, refainry(make windtraps wenn needed). After this make what u want,DON`T make 2 windtraps in the beginning. U should make a lots of regular infantry(20) and bikes. this way u should be k BUT u can`t always win with this building order, u must look at what ur opponent has so u can make a strategy for this u need to know everything about the units.

If u play atr always try to get drones early in the game so u can kill his economy.

If u play ordos u must rush, if u can`t get in his base then kill his spice with a few lasers( dont make lasers only cuz they can be easly killed by infantry).

If u play Hark u must try to rush if it fails and the game turns into a long game make devastators and drop them or gunships.

[Apollyon]

"If u play ordos u must rush"

I personally disagree with this statement. It is largely true with Ordos vs Harkonnen due to the gunship, but the kobra works perfectly well against minotauruses with troopers as anti-drone.

[Warskum]

Mino outranges cobra so not much use against minos.

(although if used right with support of the right units they can be usefull).

[lowzeewee]

When deploying with scouts scattered around,they can actually kill fremen very well...but just make sure that it is the kobra that strikes first. :)

[Inoculator9]

My strategy has always been mass tactics. Construct some moderately good units and put up a nice defensive line for your base, but keep a close eye on it. Then within your base, build a huge force at a more hidden location, and maybe reinforce your defensive line occassionally. While players that attack sporadically have fewer dedicated defenders and deployed attackers, you have a huge attack force that can punch through all of it.

[Apollyon]

That won't work online against any half-decent player in a month of Sundays. :)

Never set up a 'defensive line', your defense is your offense, attack whenever you have the advantage.

[Timenn]

Mino outranges cobra so not much use against minos.

(although if used right with support of the right units they can be usefull).

Actually, that is not true. They have the exactly the same range (in the sourcecode they have the same "bullet" (every unit has a "turret" and every "turret" fires a "bullet") and in the "bullet" is listed what the range is (and damage etc.))

However, in some ocassions the Mino has a bigger range, and this is a bug. As you may have noticed, if you order the Mino to attack the Kobra, then it walks in the Kobra's range before it fires. But when you order it to move just outside the Kobra's range, then the Mino also fires...

[Inoculator9]

I disagree Apollyon. If you can sufficiently protect the internal workings of your base from detection, my strategy works very well.

And I just disagree, lol, it's a tactic that won me the game on hard with great frequency. When operated correctly, it's a tactic that works.

[Warskum]

AI sssssuuuuxxxxx if some tactic works on the AI it doesn`t means it will work on humans, if u defend against me I ll just kill ur harvs and trust me wenn I want to scout ur base i will(with drones or fremen or just walkin a scout in it with little steps), besides ppl are playing on 10k so it will take a long time be4 u get ur defence up and in the mean while u will be atttacked constantly.

[Apollyon]

I disagree Apollyon. If you can sufficiently protect the internal workings of your base from detection, my strategy works very well.

And I just disagree, lol, it's a tactic that won me the game on hard with great frequency. When operated correctly, it's a tactic that works.

I don't care if you've beaten the AI on hard, lol. The AI has the intelligence and playing ability of a banana (a very stupid banana at that). You will *never* win against any decent player by being defensive in any way for more than the first 2 minutes (and even that's a stretch).

[Inoculator9]

The point I was trying to make, was that you can set up a generally weak defensive line out of the rabblous units you don't use. My strategy is an anti-AI strategy. I'm not offering advice for multiplayer, just the campaign. So Apollyon, I don't give a shit what any decent player could do :P

[Warskum]

Every1 can beat AI, we must help gerbilpoo get better on the internet, wich isnt easy cuz of all the top players who rush the shit out of u be4 u can even make a normal army.

[lowzeewee]

Not all players online are elite... ::)

[Warskum]

treu, but most of the players rush.