zamboe Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 IT'S A BOOK.Title : Stupid White Men ...and Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the NationBOOK OF THE YEAR.40 WEEKS AS THE BEST SELLER (# 1) BOOK IN THE NEW YORK TIMES LIST.STILL BEING # 1 IN AMAZON.COM BEST SELLER OF BOOKS. Review : " Michael Moore's screed against "Thief-in-Chief" George Bush's power elite, hit No. 1 at Amazon.com within days of publication. Why? It's as fulminating and crammed with infuriating facts as any right-wing bestseller, and as noisily entertaining as a wrestling smackdown. And he's serious when he advocates ousting Bush. "It's obvious that those who buy the book are not Bush fans, and those who bought are not certanly few.I just wonder why such a success, (really, no sarcasm), perhaps some of you could tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 IT'S A BOOK.Title : Stupid White Men ...and Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the NationBOOK OF THE YEAR.40 WEEKS AS THE BEST SELLER (# 1) BOOK IN THE NEW YORK TIMES LIST.STILL BEING # 1 IN AMAZON.COM BEST SELLER OF BOOKS. Review : " Michael Moore's screed against "Thief-in-Chief" George Bush's power elite, hit No. 1 at Amazon.com within days of publication. Why? It's as fulminating and crammed with infuriating facts as any right-wing bestseller, and as noisily entertaining as a wrestling smackdown. And he's serious when he advocates ousting Bush. "It's obvious that those who buy the book are not Bush fans, and those who bought are not certanly few.I just wonder why such a success, (really, no sarcasm), perhaps some of you could tell me.lol! One left-wing book selling on the NY Times best seller. Funny how you ignored all the RIGHT-WING BOOKS (plural) that have been on there for the last 2 years. Man zam, this is a classic example of a "spin" post. And that book has been on the list for 41 weeks, true, but not 41 weeks in the top 10.NY TIMES BESTSELLERS: The Savage Nation by Michael Savage- THE most right-wing guy in America. More right wing than Rush LImbaugh, more right wing than Sean Hannity. Just came out, 5 weeks on the list and listed higher than "Stupid White Men" on the Best Seller list (just cuz its #1 at amazon, doesn't mean its #1 nationally).Leadership by Rudolph W. Giuliani, 17 weeks on the listSean Hannity: Let Freedom Ring: at least 17 weeks (dont know exact number)Slander: Liberal Lies about the American Right by Ann Coulter (don't know how many weeks)"40 WEEKS AS THE BEST SELLER (# 1) BOOK IN THE NEW YORK TIMES LIST." Bogus. Utterly false. 40 weeks on the list...many weeks not even in the top 10. And currently, Savage Nation- the most right wing guy in American media is ahead of that book on the NY Times. Right now the #1 book in America is.......*drum roll*THE SAVAGE NATION by MICHAEL SAVAGE! woot! Right-wingers own!http://www.nytimes.com/pages/books/bestseller/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboe Posted February 27, 2003 Author Share Posted February 27, 2003 lol! One left-wing book selling on the NY Times best seller. Funny how you ignored all the RIGHT-WING BOOKS (plural) that have been on there for the last 2 years. Man zam, this is a classic example of a "spin" post.emprworm, as I said I mean no sarcasm.I just find it interesting and wanted to know why. That is not a "spin" post, is not my intention.If I'd knew about right-wing book with some interesting issues I'd also have posted it. Don't blame me for not knowing everything. Geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emprworm Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 lol! One left-wing book selling on the NY Times best seller. Funny how you ignored all the RIGHT-WING BOOKS (plural) that have been on there for the last 2 years. Man zam, this is a classic example of a "spin" post.emprworm, as I said I mean no sarcasm.I just find it interesting and wanted to know why. That is not a "spin" post, is not my intention.If I'd knew about right-wing book with some interesting issues I'd also have posted it. Don't blame me for not knowing everything. Geez.ok, sorry. :( well in your defense, there are indeed many bush-haters right here in America. I'm not sure why, but they are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Stupid White Men? It sounds like some kind of racistic literature. Are there any "black skinheads" in USA? :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Micheal Moore is white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Oh, so you like right-wing books, Emprworm? Such as Mein Kampf, for example...? ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 EdricO, if you are so left, can you recommend me some good anarchistic book? ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Anarchists are not left-wing, you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Wouldn't anarchy be (0,0)? Mein Kampf is Hitler's telling of how he got to power or his political views? I never knew which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Anarchists are not left-wing, you know...So then you don't know much about it ;D Have you ever heard about Michail Bakunin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Mein Kampf contains Hitler's political views. He wrote it while he was in jail after a failed coup. I haven't read it (and nor do I intend to read that filthy trash), but from Hitler's later actions I think his political views can be summed up as "What I say, goes."Caid, the left-right scale refers to a person or group's view on economy. I don't think anarchists have anything to do with it. In anarchy, there is no economy in the common sense of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 My history teacher read Mein Kampf and she said that apart from all the obvious badness about it, that it was just a bad book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboe Posted February 28, 2003 Author Share Posted February 28, 2003 In other forum I participate, some guys also mentioned the book :IF YOU RIDE ALONE, YOU RIDE WITH BIN LADEN.That seems to be (I didn't read, and I don't plan to) more objective in it's approach to critize the current US administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_Worf Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 My history teacher read Mein Kampf and she said that apart from all the obvious badness about it, that it was just a bad book.I think Hitler's domination plans are pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Interesting, but DO NOT be interested by them... They already costed us dearly. But I don't think it's good to ban it. It isn't very good book (some kind of plebic shit about "how those Jews are evil"), but it reveals all reasons of WW2. Just it needs some good explanation of historics inside.Caid, the left-right scale refers to a person or group's view on economy. I don't think anarchists have anything to do with it. In anarchy, there is no economy in the common sense of the word.Politics aren't just about economy. Primary it's a view of ruling - with higher (left) or lower (right) responsibility of government over people. In anarchy there is no government, so everyone reigns himself, what is biggest form of responsibility. Anarchism suspects best way is material trading, but on lowest scale. De facto they fight against politics - but until they don't rule, they are a political side! Same with fascists. As I see in most books, even right-wing extremists were voted because they "freed" people bored by politics. Both extremes are specifical with that they negate political discussion.I am not an anarchistic expert, but if you know our language, then on lower link you have everything ;)http://www.csaf.cz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 On the other hand, you could also say that since in anarchy there is no government, it has zero responsibility... in other words, it's the furthest right-wing politics possible.So you see, anarchists can be considered just about anything you like on the left-right scale, depending on how you look at them. That's why I prefer to say they are outside this scale altogether.You know, Hitler openly declared in his campaign: "A vote for me is a vote to end democracy." And that's exactly why people voted for him... talk about stupidity!Btw, I can't speak a word of Slovak, so I can't read what it says on that site... :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakgab Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Apparently, Mein Kampf was so boring and poorly written that it was almost unreadable. Horrendously boring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 I added my anarchy post in the totalitarian thread by mistake.Communism is an anarchy. In its true form, it has no government. There fore it is an anarchiac (?) philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edric O Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Yes, that's the Communist Utopia... and, unfortunetaly, it's only a utopia. The more down-to-Earth version does have a government, but one which is completely under the control of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Mein Kampf contains Hitler's political views. He wrote it while he was in jail after a failed coup. I haven't read it (and nor do I intend to read that filthy trash), but from Hitler's later actions I think his political views can be summed up as "What I say, goes."c]Edric you got to know your enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyPIG Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 ...why bother fixing your country's problems when you can just blame them on white people...Great plan. Grea plan indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree ;) (I'm neutral, actually, afterall blaming the dropping of the nukes on japan can be done on stupid white men (Germans of the past) coz, as the phrase goes, they started it!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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