New House list

Vanguard3000 · June 11, 2002

I've made a huge update to the list of Great Houses, including their first appearance, and some important notes. I'm considering submitting it to the Lansraad sometime, but I'd like to get some of you to proofread it, and give feedback and suggestions. Thanks.

http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/houses.htm

Frodo · June 14, 2002

these are all in the books? Wow!

Vanguard3000 · June 14, 2002

Yep. Most of them were from the prequels though.

exatreide · June 15, 2002

Yes....good list.

Colonel_Worf · June 28, 2002

Great list... although I do not believe Fenring had his own House. Wasn't he just an Imperial observer with a title?

zispin · June 28, 2002

I never reaslised there were this many houses...

I notice that House Ordos are a House-Minor, why is it then, do you think, that they have such a large part in Emporer? Surely it would have made more sense to have the Ixians or Tleilaxu as a fully-playable side and Ordos as the Sub-House?!

TMA_1 · June 28, 2002

the tleilaxu and Ix arent a house in my opinion. now vernius is in control of ix in the prequels but I kinda part ways with that though the prequels are amazign stories:) Ordos didnt come from frank herbert but from Dr. McNally of U.C.Berkly who wrote the Dune Encyclopedia. In the Encyclopedia, Ordos is a great house with 7 out of 10 votes in the landsraad councel. big house.

zispin · June 28, 2002

My bad ::)

Vanguard3000 · June 28, 2002

Colonel Worf: Around the end of HA, Fenrig is given a title and House. Fenrig actually says something like "Really? My own House? Yipee!", except not quite as Anakin Skywalkerish.

quoudam72 · June 28, 2002

And that is the one thing I find annoying about his reaction it does not seem Count Fenring would say such a thing but the again I could be wrong. Anyway nice update on the House list Vanguard it should be posted somewhere else on the site (besides the fact that it is here on this thread).

Caid Ivik · June 29, 2002

Where are houses Viest and Shimko?

Mahdi · June 29, 2002

Very good. Let us know when the final version is done.

ordos45 · June 30, 2002

A good list. I noticed some homeworlds were Terra aka Sol 3 aka the Earth. Guess that tables any wonderings about it.

mr_snowman · June 30, 2002

Thats a good list.its amazing how many houses there are.

exatreide · June 30, 2002

to bad tera was destroyed by a planatiod :'( :'(

Gunseng_Harkonnen · June 30, 2002

There are mostly main countries leaders or famous politicians. But funny is see House Abraham ;)

Vanguard3000 · June 30, 2002

Okay, I pulled out my HA copy to settle this Fenrig thing. Look on HA paperback page 623 (I'll paraphrase).

-SPOILERS FROM HOUSE ATREIDES-

Just after Shaddam makes Fenrig Imperial Observer on Arrakis, he also says he is making him a Count. Fenrig is surprised and excited. Shaddam says that, eventually, he will give Fenrig a CHOAM Directorship and seat in the Landsraad.

So, I think he probably would be a full, Landsraad-official Count by the time Paul deposed Shaddam. Also, as I was looking this up, I remembered that Farad'n's father's name was Dalak Fenrig. Any relationship?

So, for now, I'll leave House Fenrig up on the list. Perhaps I'll add this info to it sometime.

Caid Ivik: Where did you find these Houses?

Ordos45: Those "Houses" are actually ancient countries (from the time the Encyclopedia was written). For example, House DuGalle would be France (IIRC), House Washington would be the U.S.A., House Steel would be the U.S.S.R., etc.

TMA_1 · June 30, 2002

I think fenring was a non sirider count. He had no planet holdings, just political power. I dont think house fenring exists but I could be wrong.

Vanguard3000 · July 1, 2002

It's true he had no land. He was Imperial Observer on Arrakis until the quasi-fief was given to the Atreides, then he became Siridar in Absentia of Caladan. Then he retired with Shaddam on S.S. until he died.

Caid Ivik · July 1, 2002

Wasn't count Fenring eunuch?

Vanguard3000 · July 1, 2002

Yes he was. That doesn't mean he can't own a Great House. It just means when he dies, so does the House.

Besides, didn't Margot have someone elses kid?

zispin · July 1, 2002

Fayd's wasn't it?

Something about not loosing the bloodline...

nemafakei · July 1, 2002

Margot had a daughter by Feyd-rautha Harkonnen (she would not inherit HF's title, therefore; besides, she was in the BG's hands). But Hasimir Fenring may not have been the only Fenring...

Vanguard3000 · July 2, 2002

Yes, exactly.

Dalak Fenrig was Farad'n Corrino's father.

Colonel_Worf · July 7, 2002

Colonel Worf: Around the end of HA, Fenrig is given a title and House. Fenrig actually says something like "Really? My own House? Yipee!", except not quite as Anakin Skywalkerish.

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page 633

"Thank you for your advice, Hasimir," Shaddam said, turning back to study the game console. Oh, by the way, did I mention that I'm... promoting you?"

Fenring gave a quiet snort. "I wouldn't exactly call the Arrakis assignment a promotion. 'Imperial Observer' doesn't sound terribly exalted, does it?"

Shaddam smiled and raised his chin in a very Imperial gesture. He had intended to do this all along. "Ah, yes...byt how does Count Fenring sound?"

Fenring was taken aback. "you're making me a Count?"

Shaddam nodded. "Count Hasimir Fenring, Imperial Observer assigned to Arrakis. Your family fortunes are improving my friend. Eventyally, we'll see about establishing you in the Landsraad"

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So, unless he is established into the Lansraad in HC, this is not a Great House.

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