Navaros Posted January 3, 2003 Author Posted January 3, 2003 haha elite i don't go Ref Fac that's too clichedas i said i rush when the situation allows for it and vs. good players ATR can only rush in certain situations, and most of the time that is not common vs. Hark or Ordos. btw please stop swearing and flaming so much. you said you would put me on ignore just the other day and i thought you did? why did you lie? please do what you said and put me on ignore. and there are very few players on these boards who could "cancel me out", maybe ACE and one or two others, but very very few LOL.
Elite47 Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 I could cancel you out. you could NEVER beat me.*EVER EVER EVER* how do u like getting it rubbed in your face, NOOB?? you cant back up your big mouth against me, and im only 15!! LOL!! Whatever you build it wont work so i dont care, i ALWAYS rush when i play atreides. i played atreides like i play ordos or hark and maybe thats why *I* win, and *YOU LOSE*. Btw you were on the ignore list, until i took you off because I like putting u in ur place, and its easy to do it. now, since u r not banned anymore howabout u take me up on my offer and we can play, i will wait 3-5 minutes ok? just so u dont miss my challenge: I CHALLENGE YOU NAV, 6K 5 UNITS , PRE ON, SUPERS ON, NOTHING ELSE AND ON AN ATREIDES MAP... HOWABOUT DIVIDED COUNTRY OR SOMETHING. WILL U STAND UP LIKE A MAN TO MY CHALLENGE OR RUN FOR COVER LIKE THE 23 YEAR OLD PUSSY BABY YOU ARE?? MY BETS ARE THAT YOU'LL IGNORE THIS AND RUN LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO
rogue1896 Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 Quitting under 3 is for weak ppl, who are scared to lose. ppl who quit under 3 prolly will build ref,fac and a rusher will build fac,ref... i rush, u lose now. Why dont u try another bo like sard,fac,ref or fre,fac,ref, or fac,fac man u got no skill. its ok though... ill wait 4 minutes to trample over you Navaros and ill build fac first. Atreides rushers own! you suck! you cant rush with atreides cuz u suck! Please take your n00bical spam off these forums you're giving ppl bad advice and they might get teh wrong impression. they should be taking advice from elite players with experience and good advice, which would cancel you out, and then we would have a bunch pf good players instead of super duper pussies like yourself. BTW u must be pretty damn cool nav, you got no life except on an emperor forum WHERE NOONE LIKES YOU~ youre like one of those kids that everyone wants to beat up and throw in mud puddles~ you are not elite, so STFU NooB!!lmao. *falls on the floor*lol, that was so funny i hit my head on my desk. ;D man, you really went all out didn't you.
Taqwa11 Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 Well, contrary to Nav's belief, Atreides possesses one of the most lethal rushes in the game on a small map against Hark. Emprworm's site describes it very well. Not surprisingly, it is almost the exact same tactic the great Hark players use against other Hark players. Against Ordos, I haven't gotten it to work so well, though, simply because of one thing: Kobras. And against Atreides, the Atreides rush just plain sucks if you build first-level units and the enemy gets a well-placed, protected mino before you get one of your own. Against Hark, it can easily stop a Hark rush under three minutes, and against an Atreides or Ordos who rushes you under three minutes it works very well, as long as you keep your eye on that first Kobra or Mino coming out of the enemy factory. And the one ace up your sleeve that you have as Atreides against rushers is the beloved machine gun turret. They may have a few units left over after a rush fight with you, but those units are usually not sufficient to enter your base and do much damage if they come up against that turret. In short, I think Atreides can hold its own against most rushes, and it can mount a very good one with first level units and either regular Sards or Fremen Fedaykin, depending on whether the enemy is Hark or Ordos.
Navaros Posted January 3, 2003 Author Posted January 3, 2003 hahahaha lol for ATR to rush successfully the Ordos or Hark would have to be pretty darn clueless about how to play Emp. elite47, what are you talking about "I lose"? I've lost to you, i've lost to ACE. ain't no one else 'round these parts right now who can legitimately say they've beat me. i've always had a winning record in QM, typically like 36-5-0 and this was back when there was actually some good players left on the ladder unlike the n00b-haunted ghosttown it is now so i don't know where you are getting that "you lose" from. i don't lose *much*. I agree that rushing n00bs is a good idea but that is *not* what i am talking about and if you early-rush any ***GOOD*** Hark or Ordos with ATR you are defintely gonna lose.
Elite47 Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 I dont play noobs navaros. i dont play qm anymore, only custom and Im ALWAYS looking for a challenge. ANYONE i play as atreides will be rushed unless it is atreides vs atreides. ive beat noobs with it, decent players, skilled players and elite players doing what i just told you~~RUSHING WITH ATREIDES.Speak for yourself about losing, you're the one with the losing problem pal, not me. With losing i mean quitting under 3 counts as losing because you would not have won obviously, thats why u quit.
Fuzi0n Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 argh! can you guys please stop discussing only War 3? *I* compared it to Emp - so if you guys are gonna discuss War3 in this thread then make sure you relate it to Emp as well. don't spam this thread with irrelvant War3 babble.hahahah north - you'd get so owned by trying to use those varied BOs! - LOL! guess you never played any good players yet because War 3 allows no room to stray from the conventional BO and Win unless the guy you are playing has no clue what he's doing. all because Blizz was too stupid to make an Under 3 Rule like the one which greatly enhances Emp gamplay and makes sure all Emp players are free to be creative and still Win.Nav u are so full of shit.Please before u load ur crap onto this website, do some checking first.Look at the replays of the top 20 playa's of the ladders, look at their bo's, doing an unconventional bo wins u the game cuz the opponnent aint expecting it..And who the hell is this north guy u keep talking 'bout??
atrd3m0n Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 Hes talking about North41, with who I used to be in FTS, back in the days.He's now in SKUM.
rogue1896 Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 i remember that name. wasn't he in FEW at one point?sheesh, if he went from FEW to SKUM he musta degraded himself or something. lol. well i'm obviously j/k. but i do remember him and i do think he was in FEW a while back.
d3m0nger Posted January 3, 2003 Posted January 3, 2003 Quitting under 3 is for weak ppl, who are scared to lose. ppl who quit under 3 prolly will build ref,fac and a rusher will build fac,ref... i rush, u lose now. Why dont u try another bo like sard,fac,ref or fre,fac,ref, or fac,fac man u got no skill. its ok though... ill wait 4 minutes to trample over you Navaros and ill build fac first. Atreides rushers own! you suck! you cant rush with atreides cuz u suck! Please take your n00bical spam off these forums you're giving ppl bad advice and they might get teh wrong impression. they should be taking advice from elite players with experience and good advice, which would cancel you out, and then we would have a bunch pf good players instead of super duper pussies like yourself. BTW u must be pretty damn cool nav, you got no life except on an emperor forum WHERE NOONE LIKES YOU~ youre like one of those kids that everyone wants to beat up and throw in mud puddles~ you are not elite, so STFU NooB!! Ahhh Elite, i remember those good old Qm's we played ::)
Elite47 Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 yeah i remember that missle tank rushing perfectly clear ::)...but thats old news, that was like 7 months ago :O ::)------------[hide] Do u remember those one games i0wnendo?ROFL[/hide]
atrd3m0n Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 hehehe so nav thinks you cant rush with Atreides....Under which rock have you been hiding man :OYou would be amazed what an early atr rush with a bunch of bikes infantry 1 or 2 mongoose and regular sards can do against harkonnen or ordos.True you gotta have more than just bikes and infantry to be effective in killing one's base, but that's why we take sards and mongooses with our rush ::)And if those are not enough trouble, wait till my first mino comes rolling out of my fac ;DFact is that an atreides rush is one of the most powerful rushes of all houses.And who says you HAVE to build a fac first in qm? That's so old, it's for ppl who fear getting rushed so much that they think their only chance lies in constructing a factory first.
atrd3m0n Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 Quote from nav's original message Yes WarCraft 3 royally sucks (more than the Contaminator unit sucks in Emperor, in fact LOL)I was reading it over again and I noticed thisI seem to remember a thread where he was crying contaminators should be downgraded LOL
VigilVirus Posted January 4, 2003 Posted January 4, 2003 Here's the thread actually:http://www.dune2k.com/forum/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=5980;start=0Except it wasn't really Nav, it was Cable impersonating him.Btw, how can anyone post as a guest? ???
slaphapy Posted January 5, 2003 Posted January 5, 2003 Nav you must learn to always be on the offensive, ask Viron, Rogue, Darkruler, Slaphapy5, Nyar, Skumruler, and many more, I myself are hard to get to harvesting wise and destroy my harvs because if you get past my offense and into my harvs you wont stay there long, isn't that right anyone I just listed? And once I get started I dont stop am I right, or is Navaros's idea of Atreides true?yes atr u r one of the best atr rushers i have seen ... u r up there with some of the best .. skum0m3n (hehe) ... if u r gonna play nav u have to learn to be able to STOP a rush dead in it's tracks... that is part of the point of the game... i've stoped a few good rushes... even some double rushes from some of my own clan members... but it's a part of the game and Nav i would really really like to play u and see how u playPS: i am really shocked that u mentioned me...BTW nav if u want to play with me the setts r:5KKNIFE FIGHTCRATES(yes that's all i dont' like pre-build or other pointless.... :P)
Sneakgab Posted January 8, 2003 Posted January 8, 2003 Great, now all three houses are rushing... yippeeThe day has come where an hour long match is an offensive thing to say or mention and is considered very rude... :Poh well... I think what Navs trying to say os that he doesn't want to rush and he doesn't want to build a fac first... not to much to ask for if you ask me afterall, emps depth and variety is supposed to be a sanctuary away from WC3's current state
ethan Posted January 8, 2003 Posted January 8, 2003 Btw, how can anyone post as a guest? ???Gob removed the option after Cable impersonated Navaros. thats also why he got a permanent ban (among other things...) .
rogue1896 Posted January 8, 2003 Posted January 8, 2003 well if you can't deal with a rush then you should learn how to. i agree that a rush leads to less and less tactical ideas but that doesn't mean that you have to conform the a central idea. and even if you are getting tired of rushes you can just play in a deathmatch b/c people don't rush that much. seriously, what's the point in rushing in a dm. it's really pointless b/c a dm in the first place is meant for fun and if you end it in like 3 minutes then that's a waste of three minutes.
Sneakgab Posted January 8, 2003 Posted January 8, 2003 The amount of people playing Emperor is already a small enough number, it's not good to be confined to dm besides if you play with non-rush settings you're called a cheesing turtler
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