ken124578 Posted December 19, 2002 Share Posted December 19, 2002 I've heard it many times contaminators rule! contaminators can do massive damage when you can flank the enemy with 3 contaminators contaminators are very good in infantry wars, they can multiply quick! never underestimate any unit in the game, they can do massive damage when you're not prepaired for them All these quotes above are WRONG!!! because of this:1. they are slow.2. they cannot destroy vehicles, they wont even damage it by 5%!3. they cannot destroy buildings, and do little damage which can be repaired in 3/5 seconds.4. they are not worth their price tag.5. their range is very short and wil only make it to their target 1 out of 10 times or not at all and only when its in an VERY large group against an VERY small group of infantry.6. contaminators can be stopped by walls.7. other units can do their job faster/more efficient and at an lower price tag with an higher % of succes.8. it has only 1 function, unlike the chemical trooper which is just as efficient.9. they give the other player's units chevrons.Perhaps this wil stop the "contaminators rule" discussion by some newbies >:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 9. they give the other player's units chevrons.I agree with everything you've said except for this. I'm sorry to say that this is false. In fact, if you've ever noticed, ALL of the subhouse units don't give units chevrons no matter how many of them you kill. Check the Rules.txt if you like. They have no 'score' point value, which means that when they are killed, they don't give any 'points' towards gaining veterancy levels.I agree wholeheartedly with the rest. Contaminators are the most useless unit in the game, cost as much as regular Sardauakar, and just completely suck. They almost NEVER get to do what they were meant to, simply because they get killed, or simply overrun by vehicles. Mass Contaminator attacks will always result in you taking more losses (economically) than the enemy. One Contaminator would have to infect 6 Harkonnen Light Infantry to equal the amount of money it cost to create it, and it will most likely get gassed or burnt by Chemical Troopers and Flamethrower Infantry respectively before it can be of any use. It would have to kill 5 Atreides Light Infantry to equal the amount of money it would take to create it (one Contaminator), so you would certainly lose much more money than the enemy from the losses you take compared to the losses he/she takes. Unless your enemy sends infantry one by one (ROFL) the Contaminator will be useless. ::) Let's face it, Contaminators suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 ...... I do not agree, but hey! i'm not wasting my time trying to convince you with my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I agree with everything you've said except for this. I'm sorry to say that this is false. In fact, if you've ever noticed, ALL of the subhouse units don't give units chevrons no matter how many of them you kill. Check the Rules.txt if you like. They have no 'score' point value, which means that when they are killed, they don't give any 'points' towards gaining veterancy levels.Hmmm, that's an interesting fact, I never noticed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I use them against scouts and light infantry to good effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Hm...I use them to kill my own scouts until I have dozens of them...Almost useful then. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 You can't use your own Contaminators to kill your own infantry and make more Contaminators. It just doesn't work. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Whoops... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 HI to everybody!If the contaminators are walking sh*ts, why westwood putted them in emperor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostHunter Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 Have noooooo idea always been a mystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted December 22, 2002 Author Share Posted December 22, 2002 ...... I do not agree, but hey! i'm not wasting my time trying to convince you with my opinionI have this game longer then most of you people have, lets see... 13 months with some days.Contaminators suck, i've said all the reasons why they suck, experienced people think they suck, i think they suck, he thinks they suck, IF YOUR MOTHER PLAYED EMPEROR SHE WOULD THINK THEY SUCKED ::), but why wont you think they suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto Posted December 22, 2002 Share Posted December 22, 2002 If you reduce their cost and buildtime drastically, they almost don't suck... ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I think it would be cool if they explode when killed...something I will implement in my mod if I ever finish it :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 If you reduce their cost and buildtime drastically, they almost don't suck... ;Dwel, the only thing you need to improve is: speed, armour, cost, effectiveness against tanks/buildings, production speed it ssad that an unit needs this much improvements to even try to compete with other more cheaper units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 ...... I do not agree, but hey! i'm not wasting my time trying to convince you with my opinionI have this game longer then most of you people have, lets see... 13 months with some days.Contaminators suck, i've said all the reasons why they suck, experienced people think they suck, i think they suck, he thinks they suck, IF YOUR MOTHER PLAYED EMPEROR SHE WOULD THINK THEY SUCKED ::), but why wont you think they suck?.... i got the game longer than 13 months ::) anyway..... I think they don't suck because people use them wrong. They are not units that you should build in mass, not units that you should use as front line soldiers but units that you should use in a sneaky way. Use some units to get their attention and move in the contaminators fromt he side, once they've started contaminating and enemy infantry force it is unstoppable, they may not be able to destroy vehicles or buildings but they can waste and entire group of infantry. Every infantry that is contaminated will turn into unit worth 300 bucks. (well the contaminator is not exactly worth 300 bucks IMO more like 150 or 200..) but anyway you can get a lot of them in no time if you use them right, and waste an army of infantry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Lol, I recently played a game in which I lost and in the end my opponent tried to hunt down my remaining chem trooper with like 10 contaminators. He just couldn't do it, lol ;D, I mean those things are slow as hell, even if you surround the enemy infantry unit, it still has a huge chance of getting away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted December 24, 2002 Author Share Posted December 24, 2002 ...... I do not agree, but hey! i'm not wasting my time trying to convince you with my opinionI have this game longer then most of you people have, lets see... 13 months with some days.Contaminators suck, i've said all the reasons why they suck, experienced people think they suck, i think they suck, he thinks they suck, IF YOUR MOTHER PLAYED EMPEROR SHE WOULD THINK THEY SUCKED ::), but why wont you think they suck?.... i got the game longer than 13 months ::) anyway..... I think they don't suck because people use them wrong. They are not units that you should build in mass, not units that you should use as front line soldiers but units that you should use in a sneaky way. Use some units to get their attention and move in the contaminators fromt he side, once they've started contaminating and enemy infantry force it is unstoppable, they may not be able to destroy vehicles or buildings but they can waste and entire group of infantry. Every infantry that is contaminated will turn into unit worth 300 bucks. (well the contaminator is not exactly worth 300 bucks IMO more like 150 or 200..) but anyway you can get a lot of them in no time if you use them right, and waste an army of infantryLet me re-phrace my post, i'm probably MORE experienced then most of the guys hanging around here! contaminators suck, they are slow not keeping up with your assault, keeping your attack around too long and you wil definatly find yourself against an giant army much better then you, instead of contaminators you could be making LEECHES!!!! they cost too much, they die too fast >:( they're an typical sign of newbieness.I think i've explained enough about this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 well, think whatever you like. but you still didn't convince me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostHunter Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Contaminators suckkk, no exceptions no excuses they suck, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terror Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 you ppl are so close minded, advice: open your mind for once and proof it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 This topic will soon close if it stays with the 'I hate contaminators' party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostHunter Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Flame I've been around forever man, playing online and everything they suck, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Give me an example of anyone actually using contaminators as a major factor to the result of the game and I shall listen, flame. Lol, give me an example of a good player even using contaminators online with the purpose other than to fool around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted December 25, 2002 Author Share Posted December 25, 2002 you ppl are so close mindedI could say the same thing about YOU.Btw. timenh, what would you want? 3 topics each with the subject "contaminators rule/suck" or 1 topic with the same name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted December 25, 2002 Share Posted December 25, 2002 The only way you could possibly know is by experience. I haven't played a lot of games online, but I never saw someone using Tleilaxu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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