L.S.D. and liberty cap mushrooms

[TMA_1]

I have done studies on these drugs. Also have many friends who have tried them. Thought they can be extremely dangerous I have noticed that the only bad effects are flashbacks to bad memories and enxiety. Long term effects can extremely rarely include mental illness but it isnt proven. from my dosens of friends that have used these drugs, none of them have said it is bad. In fact many say "everyone should be able to try it at least once". I am never going to use it on the basis that it is illegal, bad crowd associated with it, and potential long term affects we dont know about. Still though is it as bad as people hype it up to be? Most of the information against it is ac tually scientifically unproven and it has been studied in many scientific settings and has been found to be relatively harmless. The only problems are "bad trips" when somebody is in a bad mood or is depressed. The government puts out its own studies that are extremely bias. what do you think?

Disclaimer: I am in no way promoting these drugs and have never or ever will take them! lol

[rogue1896]

you're gonna get one hell of a thrashing from taq, lol. j/k. personally, i don't think any drug is 'ok' by any means unless it's for medicinal purposes. and i would personally never do any drug for two reasons.

1)obviously, it's illegal

2)i'd make a total ass of myself

i'm not willing to throw away my dignity for be 'popular' or b/c some ppl say it's harmless. that's just my two cents on the matter.

[TMA_1]

true. most of the friends i know though are too old to be popular and go to community college.lol they are hippy types and are completely harmless. If you want to find drugs in the popular or cool scene, go to highschool.lol

[rogue1896]

believe me, i know. i got to high school almost every day :'( if there is a hell on earth, that is it.

[Acriku]

What police need are undercover students, like me rogue and TMA and basically get everybody from within. It would be surprisingly effective if done properly.

[IxianMace]

believe me, i know. i got to high school almost every day :'( if there is a hell on earth, that is it.

I finished high school not too long ago. This may sound weird, but after you finish and look back on the days that were high school, you will find that it wasn't so bad after all. In fact, you might even end up missing it a little. :O :P

Back on topic: I personally wouldn't take any drugs unless I needed them (and they were prescription drugs or drugs you legally get from doctors, GPs, etc,) simply because I don't want to ruin my life by doing something stupid that was apparently 'harmless'. It's just not worth it.

[Anathema]

First: I'm from the Netherlands, and in the Netherlands its easy to get so called "soft drugs". Technicly its not legal but government policies result in that nobody will be caught for small amounts for personal use (I don't see the point in not legalising it in such a case). This draws a line between relatively harmless soft drugs (which aren't much more dangerous then tobacco) and hard drugs, like LSD, who can have damaging effects.

I think its okay to smoke pot because it is not physicly addicting (the tobacco is however) and doesn't carry significant health risk. I think however that nobody should ever consume hard drugs.

Some people (like TMAs hippy friends ;)) may be able to deal with it. Then again, some people can deal with drunkness and still drive safely. What matters is that it is dangerous for most people and should therefore not be allowed.

[The_Sadukar]

you could also look at people who do drugs as weakling who are unfit to take the rigors of life, ad as such as unfit to live.

[Acriku]

Pot is definitely a health hazard, a few months ago British scientists discovered that pot is the equivalent of 3 cigarettes, with all the tar and carcinogens in pot it's dangerous.

[Caid Ivik]

Start Mechcommander in 16 colors and you will never need any psychedelic chemicals ;D

[DjCiD]

well nicotine isnt innocent ya know... :P I've seen more graves of cig smokers than I have doobie ones...

[rogue1896]

well nicotine isnt innocent ya know... :P I've seen more graves of cig smokers than I have doobie ones...

that's because nicotine isn't illegal. people could be known smokers and then they die from that but if you were on pot then people might not really know about it. they might've even put the cause of death as smoking related.

[TMA_1]

ganja is not too bad at all. In the netherlands, hard drug usage is very low and america is much worse which was polled actually. L.S.D. doesnt have any physical side effects. It is actually mental and emotional trauma from taking it while depressed or unready. Or taking too much and being a dumbass with it. It is water soluable and runs through your system. As a matter of fact some native americans took a fungus that is a relative of the dirivitive of L.S.D. which actually comes from a fungus that grows on rye. they would drink their urine in order to keep their high for spiritual purposes. I dont think its right and is a way to escape. Still though from my studies it isnt physically detramental to your health. Many myths surround it. Such as it crystalizes in your body and then eventually detaches so that you get an unwanted high in the future. Blah blah its pretty phoney stuff.

[Khan]

I have tried me light drugs with friends, not just to be popular I genuinly wanted to try them out. It was OK but i don't think I'd do it again. However, I have absolutely nothing against drugs, if people want to use them thats OK with me.

[Anathema]

Pot is definitely a health hazard, a few months ago British scientists discovered that pot is the equivalent of 3 cigarettes, with all the tar and carcinogens in pot it's dangerous.

I believe a recent British research pointed out the substances of pot carry a health risk of like 7 times of that of normal cigaretes. But pot doesn't make you agressive, kill you outright or makes you addicted.

In the netherlands, hard drug usage is very low and america is much worse which was polled actually

It's been polled more often then I can count. Still most people think the Netherlands is a drug paradise.

L.S.D. doesnt have any physical side effects. It is actually mental and emotional trauma from taking it while depressed or unready.

The real danger about most drugs is that you can't tell easily if the drug is safe. Often the people who made it throw in cheap substitutes for some of the chemicals. Many drug deaths were caused by polluted drugs.

[DjCiD]

that's because nicotine isn't illegal. people could be known smokers and then they die from that but if you were on pot then people might not really know about it. they might've even put the cause of death as smoking related.

Well I dont lie to my doctor, He knows I'm on the Dope. He even said to me "at least its not cigaretts". So when I die Im sure if he is still my Doc he can rule if it was due to the pot or not.

I know that the actual smoke is bad for you whether natural tobacco (no chemicals added) or marijuana. But when you look at the natural drugs found in marijuana compared to the drug nicotine that is added to cigaretts, which one does the damage to the Body?

The added or the found?

And I dont know too many ppl that smoke a pack worth of joints a day. But I know ppl that will crush 3 to 4 packs of cigaretts a day. You dont smoke marijuana like you do a cigarett, so I dont doubt. that one mairjuana cigarett has just as much bad smoke tobacco cigaretts

[Edric O]

Personally, I never ingest any substance that may interfere with my judgement. End of story.

[Anathema]

I don't smoke (even cigaretes) but I don't mind others doing it. Do you think others should be allowed to use drugs?

[The_Sadukar]

Well, i ahve one thing to say to DjCiD, and that is weakling, the fact that you are on dope, clearly displays the fact that you lack the strenght of will and courage it takes to be a human.

Note, my opinion on drugs also goes for alcohol and cigates

[DjCiD]

well sir sard that is your opinon and I certinly hope you dont ingest soad pop, coffee or chocloate, you know there are drugs in those... wouldnt wont you to be a hipocrite or anything.

[Anathema]

Sard I drink alcohol (occasionally). I think ingesting drugs is tolerable as long as you don't become a pest to society. Hard drugs make people pests, but cigarettes don't (though alcohol tends to).

[The_Sadukar]

to your info, I only drink warter

[Caid Ivik]

So, if you take half-deci of good Cabernet Sauvignon, it's good to your health. When Noe reached Ararat, at first he established wine.

[TMA_1]

Actually even the jews used early forms of hashish oil (its is concentrated THC) which is then mixed with honey or just eaten orally. Many ancient cultures loved ganja and not just for spiritual reasons. It was used recreationally by many long ago. As a matter of fact hemp was grown in early plymoth and virginia colonies for clothing and whatnot. And yes... even smoked.lol

[DjCiD]

I dont know if its true but I heard the Romans would have big feast and then go vomet and smoke pot to eat more... guy called it something like a Vomitorium ;D they would use feathers to tickle thier throats :O