Building

[Guild Maker]

As an old player i suggest to start with:-

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1. The turrets as these are defencive.

2. Then i build an army to attack with.

3. Make a second one to with your best soldiers.

4. I suggest to make friendship with the sadukar as soon as possible.

5. Build 20 primary sard and 5 secondary sards.

6. Position the 1st army in the primary passage your enemy passes fromm.

7. Block her the way and position the second army where the enemy units are produced.

8. How you have to make the sards destroy the buildigs.

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[Ghosty_Square]

I suggest you 're ordos and do the following:

Build barracks

Build scouts and quickly scout the map

Build 10 chems

Build factory

Build 6-8 dust scouts

Send them to the enemy 's base. You just won.

Of course don't try this against a high-skilled player. There are more advanced tactics you should use.

[Guild Maker]

I don't think you would do the same in the later levels?? ::)

[Ghosty_Square]

I 'm talking about multi-player.

But unless there is a sub-mission (find fremen, kill sardaukar or whatever), I would rush in campaign too.

[ethan]

As an old player i suggest to start with:-

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1. The turrets as these are defencive.

2. Then i build an army to attack with.

3. Make a second one to with your best soldiers.

4. I suggest to make friendship with the sadukar as soon as possible.

5. Build 20 primary sard and 5 secondary sards.

6. Position the 1st army in the primary passage your enemy passes fromm.

7. Block her the way and position the second army where the enemy units are produced.

8. How you have to make the sards destroy the buildigs.

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actually, thats okay if the difficulty is easy, but dont do it against expirienced.

[Ghosty_Square]

easy-normal-hard

They 're all the same. Can't see the difference when playing.

[ken124578]

Its because you and i rush, if we didn't we would notice quite an change.

[IxianMace]

I think on the Easy/Normal/Hard settings, the AI gets to build at varying speeds. For example, on the Normal setting the AI builds at the normal build times, but on the Hard settings, the AI gets to build faster. The attack groups are also more vicious and larger, if you let the AI get to that stage as well.

[Timenn]

There is alot of difference in the difficulty levels.

Play on hard. And let the opponent build for 5 minutes...

[Baronvonflames]

there is a really big difference cause when i cant get on WOL, i play against the computer. i always just do stuff random but if you just sit there and build up your technology levels, and smalll amounts of units the hard ppl will pound the crap out of your base and they'll use long range units (kobra, inkvine, mino) against your turrets so they do no good

[Ghosty_Square]

You can simply rush and wipe the AI out before it gets the chance to do all that.

[ken124578]

This is about giving the AI an fair chance.

[Warlord]

Well whatever...About the topic, For Harkonnen, Depend on Units as primary defense with the assistance of a couple gun turrets. Then later on in the game, screw the defense buildings and just get ADPs, Devestators, and Flametanks as your protection.

[Ghosty_Square]

Even if you wait for it to build, you can still win easily. Simply build a strong defense and don't bother about attack. Then start building air forces of your house (ornis, gunships or eits) in great numbers. Always work.

Once I used about 80 eits in total (used them in 7 attacks) to destroy a hark base. The majority of the eits acted as baits for his missile tanks and troopers, and the rest did the job.

[Ghosty_Square]

Even if you wait for it to build, you can still win easily. Simply build a strong defense and don't bother about attack. Then start building air forces of your house (ornis, gunships or eits) in great numbers. Always works.

Once I used about 80 eits in total (used them in 7 attacks) to destroy a hark base. The majority of the eits acted as baits for his missile tanks and troopers, and the rest did the job.

[ken124578]

You posted that twice. Anyway, building mass gunships against Atreides doesn't work because airdrones own gunships. That also counts for the Ordos.

[IxianMace]

The AI doesn't really build Air Drones, and even if the AI does, it doesn't know how to use them properly, they always send them over ground units and just stay overhead. ::)

[Ghosty_Square]

Sorry for the two posts.

Ken go ahead and try it. Yep the AI does build AA defences BUT

if you have a strong defense, it's too dumb to think of camping oo your spice field. Therefore you have an excellent economy and can amass as many air units as you want.

I just played a skirmish against a hark ai. Using only ornis, some turrets and 1 mino I got 496 kills.

[IxianMace]

I just played a skirmish against a hark ai. Using only ornis, some turrets and 1 mino I got 496 kills.

I presume you had repair vehicles repairing the mino and the ornis. Otherwise, I must really admire your skill at micromanaging your units and keeping them in good shape, and getting that many kills. I guess your ornis and mino were probably all elite by then eh? ;)

[Ghosty_Square]

Nope I didn't use a repair unit and that's why ornis suffered heavy losses. The mino however got quickly elite, and after that it was almost impossible for the enemy to kill it.

[ken124578]

Ken go ahead and try it.

Try what ???

[AWACS]

I think best use or ginships, ornies are against ordos, exploit they're weakness, AA. Works for me take out they're turrets with gunships inkvine people as they excape and then send the tanks, buzzsaws and missile turrets.

[ethan]

Rushing just never works against an AI no matter how skillful you are.

uh, no.

i can rush with Atredies (yes atredies) and still win

[Warlord]

Rushing ALWAYS works against the AI on ALL occasions. It doesnt matter how "smart" you think the AI is, its a computer, all computers cant get smarter or learn from previous mistakes.

[ethan]

Rushing ALWAYS works against the AI on ALL occasions. It doesnt matter how "smart" you think the AI is, its a computer, all computers cant get smarter or learn from previous mistakes.

what he said. :D