500th topic

[Ghosty_Square]

hehehe O0

Actually I thought I should make a topic about engi drops. Do you think they 're effective, that they are devastating but aren't worth the high cost (upgrade factory, build apc, upgrade barracks, build engis, build hangar, upgrade hangar, build advcarryall), that they are useless?

Some ppl call it lame and unfair. Personally I don't angry. In my opinion, if you're atr or ordos and your enemy lacks sufficient AA, you should punish him for this by using engi drop. I have won a significant number of games with eng drop.

[Terror]

yes they're effective.....

[IxianMace]

I remember in my newbie days near the start of this year, that engi drops were basically my entire strategy. :O ;D All I'd do is nervously build up the tech tree until I had 1 Atreides APC, 1 Atredies Advanced Carryall, and 5 Engineers. I'd just shove all the engis into the apc and put it in the enemy base. Then I'd take the refinery, construction yard, factory, barracks, and outpost (if there was another factory or a hanger, I'd take them instead of the outpost). It was very amusing, I got quite a few laughts out of it. I got called names like 'cheapass' or people saying stuff like: "That's lame", but it was still worth it for the fun, and seing all the enemy buildings just selling up and disappearing into the rock, leaving nothing but empty space in his base. :D ;D

[Ghosty_Square]

Actually if you 're atr, before making the engi drop, build a turret and have it ready to place. When you capture one building immediately place the turret. Then start building more turrets. Your enemy won't stand a chance.

[IxianMace]

Actually if you 're atr, before making the engi drop, build a turret and have it ready to place. When you capture one building immediately place the turret. Then start building more turrets. Your enemy won't stand a chance.

I remember in my newbie days

I do prepare turrets when I engi drop now. :)

[Timenn]

Hehe, this forum is in the top 3 :)

http://www.dune2k.com/forum/index.php?board=;action=stats

But I don't care about money if I can destroy my opponent with it.

So if I can do an engineer drop... I'll do it :)

[ken124578]

hey timenn, how did you made that devil avatar again?

was it >) ??

[ken124578]

timenn? how can i make the little devil smiley?

[Ghosty_Square]

You mean this >:D

[ken124578]

>:D

[IxianMace]

Anyway, back on topic, when you do engineer drops, what priorities do you go for? (i.e. what sort of buildings do you capture first or consider more important to seize control of over other buildings)?

[Timenn]

If I have the space. I capture the conyard and after that the factory and then the barracks and then the refineries.

And I make sure that I have a prebuilt turrets ofcourse

[Terror]

construcion yard, factory and the spaceport

[ken124578]

You guys are planning on preventing your enemies base building, thats not what you should focus on, if you do an engineer drop its wise to take over the construction yard, not because you can halt your enemies base building for awhile but because of its armour.

second would be the baracks, if your smart you should build flameturrets/machinegunturrets or pop up turrets, but 1 engineer and poof, gone is your construction yard.

third would be factory, its usually destroyed by my turrets, so no need to waste an engineer for it.

fourth refineries, refineries are SO important, they are as underestimated as scouts, your opponent has to stop all productions in order to get his refineries back up again, usually no-one has enough money to build/upgrade refineries + building units.

this might sound strange but for me its the most effective engy drop strategy.

[Ghosty_Square]

Usually the engineers don't have the luxury to choose which buildings to capture, unless you play a newbie. I capture the buildings that are closest to drop site.

[ken124578]

The construction yard and baracks are usually the closest. But the construction is your primary target, without it everything can fail.

[IxianMace]

construcion yard, factory and the spaceport

If your enemy has a starport, you probably won't have the opportunity to engi drop his base, due to the heavy defences that will be in place, unless you're playing a moron. You shouldn't let them get to the stage where they can get a starport in the first place.

[Terror]

HEY, no insulting plz. i don't play online so i play computer morons... can i help it?

[ethan]

HEY, no insulting plz. i don't play online so i play computer morons... can i help it?

same here :-

[IxianMace]

Was I insulting someone? Please quote me if I was, I didn't think I was at all. ??? What I meant by 'moron' was that they weren't paying attention or they were a newbie or inexperienced. I didn't mean it literally. :-

[Terror]

well, not personally insulting... but a bit more general, that it only works vs. noobs and since i play comp noobs (well i'm a noob myself ofcoruse :D )

[Dante]

I prefer to take the conyard and then send it back on the adv carryall. Let the enemy build up again with an MCV from the factory and then use their own units (from the factory or barracks built from the stolen conyard) to wipe them out.

[lowzeewee]

Normallly experienced guys would have mongoose/AA troopers/Hark Troopers guarding the base frm yr carryall.

It goes the same for the MCV rush,the guy will just move his MCV away

[Anathema]

I remember when I played a game ages ago and I had a machine gun turret in my base. Just one. Guess where the guy lands his APC with engies ;D

[DukeLeto]

lol.

I played aginst someone who captured my con yard when I wasn't looking, and just left it until I recaptured it. :P