Emperor Vs Warcraft 3

[Dude_Doc]

I have a question: is it really nessesary to have 3D in strategy games? I mean, just look at StarCraft, I think that's enough, because after a while, it does not matter if it's in 3D or not. Okay, maybe there are more possibillities, but still, I don't think EBfD NEEDED its 3D. Okay, I do have computer enough for both WC3 and EBfD, but still, I do mostly consentrate on conquering the level, and not paying much attention of what or how the units looks like, only that they can beat the enemy, and that they obey my commands. Similar things can be seen in FPS's, mostly in the single player campaigns. How many times have you stopped to look at the beautiful surroundings? Me? Not many. When I played Unreal 1 for the first time, I was amazed from the first level to about the second, then, I didn't see much difference in details in other levels.

[Terror]

well the point is. Starcrafts graphix are ageless to me. the resolution sux (640x480) but because the units are so big they still look reasonable detailed and the animation is great in starcraft. That is why i still like starcrafts graphix, technically though they are pretty bad :)

[Khan]

if you think when they're from there kinda good

[Terror]

true, very true. But still i like them still

[DukeLeto]

I mean in starcraft you have many games to choose. In E:bfd for instance you can only choose out of like 3-4 games?

Yeah, but all those SC games are on dumb "Mega-monry" maps. Every blasted one of them.

[Terror]

nonono. you're probably not looking right because I can find them. not only lost temple but also killing fields, avengers etc.

[DukeLeto]

Really? Well good for you. Care to say where? Which channel? ::)

[Terror]

european channel :D just w8 a while for the refresh and look at the maps where they play on. If you see a blizzard logo and it's not hunters then join :)

[DukeLeto]

european channel

I'm not European, now am I? But that doesn't matter...

Yeah, there are a few, but they usually get ruined by rushing. All people do is rush or mass. *Sigh* All the strategy is gone. :'(

[Terror]

hmmm that IS strategy. at least, as long as you find a way to counter it :). ofcourse if you die to the first zealot rush every time there's not much strategy in it for you :). But the fun thing about starcraft is keeping the pressure high. if you have an opponent of high skill and you can play sc pretty well yourself it is awsome to see those battles. just pushing your forces in to the enemy base asap and retreating when you're receiving damage. it's all about hit and run attacks

[DukeLeto]

hmmm that IS strategy. at least, as long as you find a way to counter it :). ofcourse if you die to the first zealot rush every time there's not much strategy in it for you :). But the fun thing about starcraft is keeping the pressure high. if you have an opponent of high skill and you can play sc pretty well yourself it is awsome to see those battles. just pushing your forces in to the enemy base asap and retreating when you're receiving damage. it's all about hit and run attacks

My question is: Why is Rushing/Massing strategy in Blizzard games and "gay" in WestWood games? ::)

[Terror]

i didn't say it was gay in westwood games, on the other hand in westwood games rushing is a more used tactic in westwood games than blizzard games. and often is too good. I mean a mino rush is easy to create and very hard to stop, while in blizzard games it is often not very hard to counter a rush since rushes have one big strength but a big weakness vs. balanced armies

[DukeLeto]

i didn't say it was gay in westwood games, on the other hand in westwood games rushing is a more used tactic in westwood games than blizzard games. and often is too good. I mean a mino rush is easy to create and very hard to stop, while in blizzard games it is often not very hard to counter a rush since rushes have one big strength but a big weakness vs. balanced armies

Well, now THAT's a giant load of b*llsh*t. ::)

1. Rushing is FAR more common in Blizzard games.

2. It's kinda hard to stop a welll executed 6-pool, or a good zealot rush. Wheras the Mino rush is easy to stop; it can't be done THAT fast. ::)

[Terror]

well neither is it hard to stop a zealot / 6 ling rush

[DukeLeto]

Really? Terran, being the good guys, get the worst stuff. I swear, Blizzard designers are aliens or something. The humans are always pathetic.

[Terror]

pfff, THAT is absolutely bullshit. Terrans are nothing less than the other two races when it comes to power. siege tanks are one of the most feared units on the battlefield, as are ghosts

[VigilVirus]

Warcraft 3 sucks a$$. Its gameplay is so repetitive and boring that you won't be able to play it for longer than a month.

Emperor rocks! Hail House Harkonnen!

[Desert_Eagle25]

We all have our own opinions, no matter how ridiculous they are ::)

I personally think WarCraft3 kicks MAJOR @$$ !!

[Anathema]

I don't like WCIII, but it's not awful either. Lousy camera and graphics are to childish. But you get four races and it's more sophisticated then any WW game.

[Khan]

yeah i dont like the camera but the graphics are quite refreshing

emperor is sooooo repetitive its always just tank rushes every where

WCIII RULES

[Terror]

yeah, i had a lan on the 21st and 22nd of oktober, we played a few war3 games... i kicked major ass :D .

[DukeLeto]

But you get four races and it's more sophisticated then any WW game.

The races are all the same, save for the unit names and graphics. Real sophisticated. ::)

[VigilVirus]

In warcraft 3 it takes a minute for 10 grunts to kill 1 footman, lol. That is such a load of crap. You can only get a max of like 15 units and there are no strategies - Just attack, attack and attack. That is so lame and boring.

[thomas]

nope you guys love ww but hate blizzard and others hate ww and love blizzard. I love warcraft3 and starcraft but I also love renegade and the first red alert and emperor

[Terror]

??? wtf? just attack attack attack? then tell me, what is emperor? is that just defend defend defend? tell me the difference.

and DukeLeto, if you can't tell the difference between a ghoul, a footmeen, a grunt and an archer you must be realy stupid