Kryptonite Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 What all did the IX do that is wrong? When did they create a thinking machine? They didn't really in the prequels. Also, does house Vernius still rule IX in the Frank Herbert books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Well they make machines in the first few books (that I've read) and machines are bad mmkay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 No one is evil. It all depends on your prospective. I mean, Tleilaxu themselves don't think they are evil - they think that the Ixians are evil and vice versa.But for some strange reason Dune was made that way that the Harkonnens themsleves think they are evil. Strange, huh?that is exactly what I like about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 [quote author=Supreme Bashar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 How can you call Ix evil - allies of Atreides...need i say more?To be honest the evil ones are the Harks and Corrinos[hide]And the Cymeks and the robots[/hide] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Corrino is corrupt and greedy, but not evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 They are evil just not as evil as the Harks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 no not that evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 [quote author=Supreme Bashar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 Corrino are similar to Harkonnen in some cases (greed, threachery-like Shddam against his father) but even if they are evil, they don`t show it in the way Harkonnen do. Harks want to people see them evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 Anyway, IX is good. Anyone who has read ALL the books would realise that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Yes I agreed with you.and harkonnens want to seem evil because other houses are afraid of them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 Ix are not evil, but they are greedy. They seek to become the wealthiest House by selling their tech.Why would anyone say that Atreides are not evil? If you look a it from te Harkonnen perspective - they are. Read Hunting Harkonnens. It was the Atreides' fault the blood feud between them has started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 in that short story there was no feud between them so what the hell are you talking about? the house atreides wasn't even founded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 Of course the Atreides aren't perfect, but they were not as corrupted or evil as many others. It wasn't an Atreides that sparked the feud, it was a cowardly Harkonnen in the Battle of Corrin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 One of the things I like the most about harkonnens is that they are treacherous and corupt ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 [quote author=Acriku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilVirus Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 Abulurd Harkonnen was the only good Harkonnen out of the living Harkonnens at that time. It has something to do with how his mother raised him. He was weak though, his own son Rabban strangled him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 The abulurd in House Harkonnen is named after a bashar from the battle of Corrin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 Don't spoil for those who haven't read house harkonnen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHJ BV Posted November 9, 2002 Share Posted November 9, 2002 Can we vote for Grumman too? They are quite evil too, I think :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 yes in House Corrino they and the Harkonnens planned to attack Caladan while most of the atreides army were helping the ixians in their fight against tleilaxu.Evil houses: Harkonnen, Moritani, Tleilaxu, CorrinoNoble Houses: Atreides, Ecaz, Ix, Richese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted November 19, 2002 Share Posted November 19, 2002 [quote author=Supreme Bashar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhuien Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 Good or bad, Black or white, up or down? What Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted November 23, 2002 Share Posted November 23, 2002 I have not read Children of Dune yet, so I don't know what Leto II is going to do in the future, but please don't spoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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