some things you should know before playing in multiplayer:

[ken124578]

yes, size doesn't matter a lot... i could just place aa units everywhere in my base with fedaykin, keep as little open spaces as possible

[Devastator_Mech]

ppppfffffttttt......since your so good, then try stop 2 mino and a 1 mongoose with any 1 unit.

[ken124578]

an worm

[Timenn]

That's 1-0 for ken :) ;)

[ethan]

in KH2 saboteurs are awesome, but.... they only come in EITS. :(

[ken124578]

uhh... were not talking about the kh :)

[Devastator_Mech]

an worm

A worm? Ok, then it'll use an Emperial Sarduakar Elite instead. Besides, a minotaurus will easily kill a Fredaykin will its deployed.

[IxianMace]

That will only happen if the other player is not very observant, and if the Fedaykin is unguarded. Just because there is 1 Fedaykin unit thumping away on the sand, doesn't mean that it's not being protected by something. There may be other Fedaykin and Fremen Warriors in the area waiting... :)

[Devastator_Mech]

Thats wait a scout is for, detecting those irratating brats.

[IxianMace]

Well your scout will get shot anyway, and the Fedaykin might undeploy and move elsewhere, and unless you attack right away after the invisible units have been detected, you'll have achieved nothing but lost a scout.

[Devastator_Mech]

Why would it get shot? When the scout spot them, they'll not even notice the scout and here they're being shelled but the minos.......

[IxianMace]

In the first place the Minos would not be in the area, and the scout would just run, and get shot. If a good player sees a Mino coming, they'll either kill it with Fedaykin, or if the Mino is coming via Advanced Carryall, they might send Air Drones (if they're Atreides). Don't assume that ONLY Fremen Warriors and Fedaykin will be protecting the thumping Fedaykin. There are usually lots of other units in a secure area.

[Devastator_Mech]

Well i mean the scout is in front of the mino..... their not moving separately.

[IxianMace]

They're not moving separately? You mean they're moving in formation? In that case, a single warrior can pick off the scout that is visible (because it is still moving, even though it's moving slowly) and 3 Fedaykin will blast the Mino to pieces with 1 shot. ;D

[Devastator_Mech]

I'll doubt a Fremen could spot a scout.....and a mino could easily kill 3 fredaykin in one salvo....

[IxianMace]

The scout will be visible because it is constantly moving!! Didn't you read the previous post? 3 Fedaykin will kill the Mino before the Mino can even turn around to shoot. Since the Mino will be walking with the scout, this will make the Fedaykin's job even easier.

[ethan]

uhh... were not talking about the kh :)

but you were talking about sabeteuors.

[ethan]

The scout will be visible because it is constantly moving!! Didn't you read the previous post? 3 Fedaykin will kill the Mino before the Mino can even turn around to shoot. Since the Mino will be walking with the scout, this will make the Fedaykin's job even easier.

so, you're saying, use scouts for bait!

i get it!

[IxianMace]

No actually, the scout was supposed to detect the Fremen warriors and Fedaykin for the Minotaurus to shoot, but I was saying that the scout would be shot dead by a Fremen warrior because it was constantly moving and therefore visible, which would make the Minotaurus vulnerable to Fedaykin. ;)

[ken124578]

an scout cannot protect an minotaur on its own, you need at least 3 of'em if you want to spot fedaykin's on time ;)

[Devastator_Mech]

Your right, but i forgot the note: keep scout cloaked

[ken124578]

it doesn't matter, we all make mistakes...sometimes ;)

[IxianMace]

it doesn't matter, we all make mistakes..

The important thing is that we learn from them, isn't it? :)

[Devastator_Mech]

Exactly, i wouldn't want to be defended twice with the same tactic......

[ken124578]

i made quite a lot of mistakes in the past, i got over them though ;)