Ligic_Tha_Master Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Why would Germany be Harkonnens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Maybe because of their hair. Attitude, faces. They also have the "urge" to conquer everything. ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 lol guys, frank didnt base any of the houses after nations. That is too cliche. he wasnt that mainstream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted May 9, 2002 Author Share Posted May 9, 2002 The harkonnens are also germans, because germany was once the biggest industrial nation worldwide. The harkonnens also seek profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 It is offensive to me that you would stereotypically say that the germans have the urge to conquer everything, me being German and all. "Germany" didn't have the urge, certain absolute rulers and dictators did. Thor, who doesn't seek profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted May 9, 2002 Share Posted May 9, 2002 Well i'm sorry for that then. I don't know whats so offensive about that. Anyways, the German's have the "looks" of Military Supremacy. Since they manufactured alot of powerful weapons and verhicles.Harkonnen = Heavy weapons. Powerful Verhicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Scotland has to be one of the wettest places on earth, how about it can be Caladan? But no, wait, none of the people here are noble enough for House Atreides...Ah well...I think Ordos bear a resemblance to Japan, but then so do the Ix.And as for Harkonnan, slow, powerful, not very bright....USA. Nah, not really, only joking. I think Harkonnan are like just about any country when it feels angry enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 USA Harkonnen only if they throw away Texas where they made copycat ;). But have Sardaukar (NATO). So they could be Corrino.(Hmmm...made cloned cat and they aren`t in Laansrad (EU)...Tleilaxu...?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Harkonnen Posted May 12, 2002 Author Share Posted May 12, 2002 there is another resembling between Scotland and Caladan. Scotland's former name was Caledonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 NATO troops = sardaukar? thats hilarious. I have never seen a more whimpy fighting force in my life. There is no military force like the sardaukar. The sardaukar are raised from birth to be fighters. We have nothing like them. the closest I could think up would be british commandos or american rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 The Chinese and other asian cultures used to, and still may, pick babies to be warriors (also in Africa) and train them from like 5 years old. The Shao Lin Ninjas are an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 You are right...its only seemed to me that USA could be Corrino and NATO is, if look at it from this side of vieve, USA thing...but Sardaukar are better for sure...I heard about commander of some country from NATO sent to Afhanistan and becouse he couldn`t speak english very well, he left other soldiers and USA soldiers found him soon in supermarket :DAnd Shao Lin warriors could be Fremen warriors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 there is another resembling between Scotland and Caladan. Scotland's former name was Caledonia.Hey! You're right! I was so stupid, I knew that, why on earth didn't I figure it out? Let's see.....any other Latin names to apply here......could be.....but other than the Dragon for Draconis IV and the roman numerals that go with it I can't thank of anything at the moment.There probably is something though. Geidi Prime maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 It is something like that: country that sells fishes products and have wide agriculture but isn`t very big - Caladan. Country most polluted - Giedi Prime. Country that is most important in the world - Kaitain. Most freezy country - Drakonis. Then take map and check witch is similar :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobdouds Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 Harshest country. Salusa Secondus. Maybe Afganistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 You could compare any of the Houses to 'real nations' because Herbert wrote the Dune novels that way that's why it generates the following that it has since it's first publishing. He used partail history and culture(s) to forge a very human saga. Unlike some sci-fic the characters are not 'alien races' designed to show the human flaw but rather humans representing humans in their complexness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligic_Tha_Master Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Afganistan has war also... that could just be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 You could compare any of the Houses to 'real nations' because Herbert wrote the Dune novels that way that's why it generates the following that it has since it's first publishing. He used partail history and culture(s) to forge a very human saga. Unlike some sci-fic the characters are not 'alien races' designed to show the human flaw but rather humans representing humans in their complexness. VERY complex. On the other hand, it isn't just the houses that represent this sort of thing. The groups like the Guild and the Bene Gesserit, who exist powerfully but without ruling anything can be found here too. Example? Any minor group in any government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Yes Dust_Scout that could also be said of Herbert's Dune. I did not mention the minor groups but you understand what I was saying about things as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Yes. And a very good point it is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 It is that it didn't excisted when FH wrote the book, but couldn't CHOAM be micro$oft?? ;DAnd ehrm Japan would be (defenitly) be the swordmasters of Ginaz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Earth did have kind of Sardaukar in the past. The Ottomanian (=Turkish) empire trained Janissaries, who were children of christians taken away from their parents and trained to fight. Slave warriors.(If this does not at all aply to the Sardaukar, excuse me. I haven't read the books yet)I really wonder what country would suit the Theilaxu best. I read that they are religious fanatics. Perhaps Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 The only country I can think of that doesn't allow too much technology is Bhutan, but they aren't evil biological cloning ghola-making people...Don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunseng_Harkonnen Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Its becouse we haven`t on Earth country that we could compare to Tleilaxu. Our greatest achievement in biological technology is making sheep and cat clone. And many people are against cloning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Scotland is Tleilax, Dolly 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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