Dunenewt Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 No, this isn't the new title of a book, but I was just wondering about some of the species mentioned in Dune. D Wolves and Las Tigers or something along those lines? Anyway, were these animals natives of Old Terra, who had travelled with humans around the galaxies, or where they native species? Obviously sandworms didn't from Earth, but many of the species mentioned in both the old and new Dune books sound so similar to Earth dwelling animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldo Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 There a particular pack animal used by the fremen called the kulon. IIRC, they even had a modified stillsuit for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 WRONG, arnoldo. ::)From the <i>Terminology</i>:"KULON: wild ass of Terra's Asiatic steppes adapted for Arrakis."From <i>Dune</i>:The concern on Arrakis was not with water, but with moisture. Pets were almost unknown, stock animals rare. <b>Some <u>smugglers</u> employed the domesticated desert ass, the kulon, but the water price was high even when the beasts were fitted with modified stillsuits.</b>Why would the Fremen saddle themselves down with the use of such a water-costly animal?'Newt, other than the worms and Cholisters, I can't think of any non-Terran animal lifeforms. There seem to be lots of alien plant species, though. (Was there some kind of alien bat?)Edit: Sorry, there's also this:"SCHLAG: animal native to Tupile once hunted almost to extinction for its thin, tough hide." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldo Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 WRONG, arnoldo. ::)From the <i>Terminology</i>:"KULON: wild ass of Terra's Asiatic steppes adapted for Arrakis."From <i>Dune</i>:Why would the Fremen saddle themselves down with the use of such a water-costly animal?My bad, the smugglers used the Kulon, not the fremen. Another animal mentioned in the dune books are the atreides house ferrets. Apparently, European royalty used to have them as pets and the Atreides were keeping the tradition alive. *Edit* However, in Spice Planet, a particular tribe of fremen is alleged to have raided smugglers camps to steal their water and Kulons which were later used ritually in their spice orgies. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunenewt Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 'Newt, other than the worms and Cholisters, I can't think of any non-Terran animal lifeforms. There seem to be lots of alien plant species, though. (Was there some kind of alien bat?)Wasn't the bat used to carry messages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlibble Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I think it was called the cielago. As for distrans messages, any living organism could theoretically carry those, including humans, as mentioned in Messiah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 "CIELAGO: any modified Chiroptera of Arrakis adapted to carry distrans messages."Chiroptera = Terran lifeform. :)Knew that, but I was thinking there was something else. Probably a brainfart.*Edit* However, in Spice Planet, a particular tribe of fremen is alleged to have raided smugglers camps to steal their water and Kulons which were later used ritually in their spice orgies. :PDIE a very long, slow death. Preferably on the receiving end of the amorous advances of a kulon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Chairdogs.Someone suffocate 'Newt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Ah, quite. Good one.Well, if we're doing genetically altered Terran critters: sligs.Mmmm ... <b>mighty</b> good eatin' there!And ... thorses! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exatreide Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Titans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 NOT. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldo Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Chairdogs.Someone suffocate 'Newt. Chairdogs must've been particular troublesome to own on Arrakis cuz of pests like the trombiculo arakensis which infested not only chairdogs but also the Kulons ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Chairdogs must've been particular troublesome to own on Arrakis cuz of pests like the <b>trombiculo arakensis</b> which infested not only chairdogs but also the Kulons ;)It's trombi<b>CULA</b>, dolt.Your little joke of changing it to -culo, to mean "ass" in Spanish, was OH SO HA HA HA HA funny when you first did it ... what, two or three years ago?But still, I'm glad you're starting to show more of your true face here, for people who aren't familiar with you from DuneNovels. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldo Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 And ... thorses! :DIs it possible that thorses and kulons were capable of interbreeding? And if so would their offspring be fertile or sterile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldo Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 In addition to chairdogs on Dune apparently there were also real dogs; which some rebel fremen wanted to breed to be the size of ponies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandChigger Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 By the time chairdogs appear, there are no more Fremen, rebel or otherwise.(No mention before <i>Heretics</i>.)Edit: Sorry, I see what you're saying now.Although there could have been chairdogs on Rakis before it was destroyed, I don't believe there's any specific mention in the books. There were none on Dune because they didn't exist in the earlier period. (Same goes for sligs: no mention prior to <i>Heretics</i>.)The dogs you mention all died, so it's a bit of stretch to say they were on the planet in the same sense as the Terran forms that had adapted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldo Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 What animal of dune is mentioned as providing the skins for the tambourines used by the fremen?. . . tambourines, tympani made on spice-plastic drums with skins stretched taut across one end. No one asked what animal on this planet provided that much skin.~CoD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlibble Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 . . . tambourines, tympani made on spice-plastic drums with skins stretched taut across one end. No one asked what animal on this planet provided that much skin.Isn't it pretty obvious it was human? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Many many muad'dibs died to make beautiful music...Edit: Muad'dibs? I have a strong feeling that the plural should be Muad'dib.*lights up the Nema-signal.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Isn't it pretty obvious it was human?I'm fairly certain it says explicitly either in the novel itself or the appendices that Fremen war drums are made out of the skin of slain enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlibble Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Edit: Muad'dibs? I have a strong feeling that the plural should be Muad'dib.A brief look into my Arabic grammar compendium tells me that N. Pl. should be something like Muad'Dibūna. I don't know what the plural for the real Arabic word mu'addib might be though :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Many many muad'dibs died to make beautiful music...Edit: Muad'dibs? I have a strong feeling that the plural should be Muad'dib. Mice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Knight Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Mice.Sorry, but that was awesome. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I don't buy it. Unless muad'dib was a title, almost like coyote in native american mythology. In which case it's not so much a name but an anthropomorphism. Anyway, whatever the fremen word for mice is, I doubt it's the same as the Galach word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicar Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 :) ;) :D ;DThere was some animals on Arrakis likekit foxkangaroo mousedesert haresand terra pindesert batPREDATORS AREdesert hawkdwarf owleagledesert owllazo tigers (from Salusa Secundus ,book3) INSECTS AS WELLscorpioncentipedetrapdoor spiderbiting waspworm flyAll the animals above (except Lazo Tigers) were introduced to Arrakis by Pardot Kynes, First Planetologist of Arrakis .I got all the infomation from appendix 1 ,The Ecology of Dune (page 876). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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