Guest Terraformer Posted July 17, 2001 Share Posted July 17, 2001 I've played almost all RTS games on the pc starting with ofcourse dune2(since it was the first rts), then C&C, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, etc... And I agree that the assault tank is indeed under armoured but it can stil take some hits and it is not too expensive... Besides that they do ok damage vs. armoured vehicles... Against infantry flame tanks and inkvine catapults are a must..However I do hope that westwood makes them a little bit more stronger in the new patch so that you don't allready lose 4 assault tanx when those mino's fire for the first time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 17, 2001 Author Share Posted July 17, 2001 why do people dis the harks so much i mean they do suck but in capable hands they're a force to reckon with(Baron99 is not one of these people)============KeRrEk= Kill Raban Everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonus Posted July 17, 2001 Share Posted July 17, 2001 The only good thing about Assault tanks are they are rather cheap, and somewhat dependable, decent mobility and firepower. That we can't really deny, however its sad to see that I can destroy (while playing online against a real human) 7 assault tanks with merely 3 laser tanks, I keep making em' move back and forth back and forth, and boom, they're 7 tanks less, and I'm 3 veteran las tanks up. HeII all HK units could stand to get a armor boast. A liitle speed wouldn't hurt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted September 29, 2001 Share Posted September 29, 2001 I know, and the Harkonnen tanks are, in theory supposed to be better fighters; but the Harkonnen units can only self repair when veteran, so you're always replacing dead ones, and they are overall, slow builders. I find that the Atreides units get advantages in all these ways over HK. The ordos are a bit -too- weak fighters, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subarupunk Posted October 2, 2001 Share Posted October 2, 2001 ords are way too weak, harks are supposed to be a threat but their not. Atreides are where its at. Â I think that harks need a bit more brutality and armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 5, 2001 Share Posted October 5, 2001 I agree totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subarupunk Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 I also like the ords but they need a bit more than just this gas crap maybe some nukes or something illegal. how come the harks have the only weapon that has been banned by coahm. Â Electric shock is good and all but hey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 CHOAM didn't ban nukes; it was the Great Convention, signed by all houses, at the end of the Butlerian Jihad. CHOAM are just the merchants who supply your starports, and control all trade in the Imperium. The ordos do use gas, banned by the GC., and their former mentat Edric O (hence the name of the guy with the saboteur icon) was a thinking computer, also banned by the GC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subarupunk Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 I'm just saying that they need something cool and deadlier.harks get inkvines and flamers and what do ords get? Â ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areyouforit Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 well ordos do have the cobra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 12, 2001 Share Posted October 12, 2001 If you're looking for sneaky ordos-like units, what about the Deviator, EITS, Saboteur, Chem trooper, etc. Ordos are not meant to be good at brute force. That's the whole point. If you don't like it, play Harkonnen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligic_Tha_Master Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 Nema's right. Ordos are men't to be sneaky with the Deviator and saboteur etc. They'd be HK if they'd have brute force. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House_Corrino Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Assault tanks are great in every stat except one: range. Â Their armor nearly matches that of a mino, their cannons take down slow vehicals even faster than las tanks (they do more damage per shot and have a greater RoF). Â They also rock against buildings. Â I've taken a deployed Kobra, one on one with an assault tank and won. Â If Assault tanks had more range, nothing could stand in their way for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House_Corrino Posted February 10, 2002 Share Posted February 10, 2002 No harkonnen unit really has the all-aroundness of an assault tank. Â Its armor nearly matches a mino's and it's weapon is like a kindjal's cannon with less range that fires faster. Â That cannon is very effestive against any kind of vehical that isn't an air unit. Â It can cut through an vehicals than las tanks or kobras and can also take down buildings effectively. Â If only it had more range. Â Still, no harkoneen unit is as vercital unit the good old assault tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted February 10, 2002 Share Posted February 10, 2002 They just need to boost up the Speed and Range of fire of the the Tank's, If that happens everything will be fine with the good old rolling thunder :)I never had problems with Atreides when playing HK's though, Ordos are more annoying with their speedy units and other stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House_Corrino Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 Stop those damn las tanks and the hark assault tanks will fare just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 I do agree that most newbies doesnt use tactics when playing harkonnen they always think the Harks are gods so they use one type of units. And thats actualy very dumb to do. For example, Â AS-tanks vs LS-tanks, Use some speedy or long range units to slow em down and finish the job with the Tanks. Ordos tanks doesnt destroy AS tanks that fast anyhow. As for inkvine, They just rock against slow units. and are pretty fast themself. If you play against Human oponent predict your enemy's movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 The thing with a tanks is that they need constant from other units in the hark armory. Yes, a las tank can easily cut through an assault tank, but if a missile tank or a devastator is behind that tank, then watch out. Assault tanks were meant for to soak up the damage for other units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 Same goes for the Mongoose though. *Throws an Laser grenade in front of the Ordos shield units... * Â ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House_Corrino Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 Assault tanks really are worth their cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 yep indeed. They dish out and take in every ounce of damage for the dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House_Corrino Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 Probably the best all-around hark unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardauker-Kirov Posted February 15, 2002 Share Posted February 15, 2002 Harkonnen = Raw firepowerd Brutes effective against all Houses :) Atreides = Psychiatric people.... Worst nightmare of the Harkonnen cuz they talk too much...Ordos = Nerds with Nerd voice's with Nerd habits and nerd nerd nerd  ;D( I agree that Assault tanks rocks in almost every situation. Poo on the atreides with their Ornihopter's hehe :) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House_Corrino Posted February 15, 2002 Share Posted February 15, 2002 Ordos have no personallity in their voices, especially the executrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 [glow=red,2,0]That's cool about Ordos 8) ;D[/glow] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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