Target: Bush

Acriku · November 30, 2004

Again, it's not what he says but what he does. I, too, am pretty disgusted to hear some people wish other people dead. It represents a total disregard for life, not to mention it's completely irrational. But that's what emotions can do to a person, and I have no doubt that what President Bush has done in his term has made many people very angry. This anger brings irrationality, and that's when the death wish comes out. Disgusting, irrational, yet understandable. Not that I am angry from what he has done, but then again I am not personally affected by his actions.

Dante · November 30, 2004

Personally I would celebrate quite unashamedly if Bush were to die, and even merrily too, if it were painful. If it were feasible (i.e. affordable) I'd probably nip over to the US to do a bit of grave-dancing as well. I really have no shame about being smug when people I don't like die. Why should anyone else?

K4^Raimund · December 1, 2004

The Death of an idiot...Morality is not an issue here, but killing in the name of money is. The Americans think that they could get away with anything...If he died...It would be a real FIESTA!

Acriku · December 1, 2004

Technically, 51% think that Raimund. (amount who voted for Bush in 2004)

K4^Raimund · December 1, 2004

"Technically, 51% think that Raimund. (amount who voted for Bush in 2004)"

I don't get it...Like me?

Anathema · December 1, 2004

Again, it's not what he says but what he does. I, too, am pretty disgusted to hear some people wish other people dead. It represents a total disregard for life, not to mention it's completely irrational. But that's what emotions can do to a person, and I have no doubt that what President Bush has done in his term has made many people very angry. This anger brings irrationality, and that's when the death wish comes out. Disgusting, irrational, yet understandable. Not that I am angry from what he has done, but then again I am not personally affected by his actions.

I could understand that Afghani (?) or Iraqi who lost family members to US soldiers would hate the US and wish death to their leaders, but the people on this forum have no excuse. Excepting Dust Scout of course, 'cause he's an evil bastard ;)

Andrew · December 1, 2004

Well families of troops who went to Iraq and died would have a good reason to hate bush.

Yes, Bush was protecting freedom, even though Iraq is halfway across the world, and according to Moore, no US citizen has ever been killed by an Iraqi (or something like that). Whoa, Iraq was a big threat to the US. ::) Quite frankly, China or North Korea were bigger threats, but they would be harder to kill.

Edric O · December 1, 2004

So what? It was an issue here in the Netherlands shortly ago: an imam had said on television that he would be happy if a certain parliament member, one who often criticises islam, died. Of course a lot of peole were pissed off to hear him say that. Even if somebody says something you totally disagree with it's still disgusting to cheer over his grave.

If he only says something you totally disagree with, then of course it's disgusting to cheer over his grave. But if he does something you consider utterly repugnant and immoral, and if he does it on a large scale, then it makes perfect sense to attempt to stop him - by any means necessary.

Dancing over the grave of political leaders is a perfectly fair practice. Wouldn't all of us dance over the grave of Saddam Hussein, or Kim Jong-Il, or any other leader that is universally regarded as evil?

What I've read here makes me thing people here have no regard for the value of life.

On the contrary. Wishing the death of a leader who is responsible for death and suffering shows you care a lot about human life. (I'm not talking about Bush here - I'm talking about a general principle)

Dante · December 1, 2004

I could understand that Afghani (?) or Iraqi who lost family members to US soldiers would hate the US and wish death to their leaders, but the people on this forum have no excuse. Excepting Dust Scout of course, 'cause he's an evil bastard ;)

Aww, thanks! :) Not often I get compliments like that...

Slight technical note though; I don't hate the US per se, just Bush and everyone who works with him.

K4^Raimund · December 6, 2004

ok, ok but picture this...you're motherland is being invaded by robbers...wouldn't you like to take a piece of their lider?

Dante · December 6, 2004

Is that directed at me? I've always said that the invaders are in the wrong, what's your point?

K4^Raimund · December 6, 2004

Of course not Dante!

Towards all who think that is cool to be a planetary COP, or a planetary tribunal...

Davidu · December 6, 2004

See... as I said: NO SUPERPOWER. We don't need it!

K4^Raimund · December 7, 2004

But they need the feeble minded...

gunner154 · December 8, 2004

Actually, how many people really hate Bush? Apparently, because I'm seeking pro-democrat sources, it seems that there are more Bush-haters than lovers.

Which is why I am devasted at the fact that Bush won the elections - both EVs and... popular vote.

So is it just me or are we having too many democrats around here?

Dante · December 8, 2004

Too black and white. There are democrats who like Bush, and even more non-democrats who don't. Besides, there are only so many people who dislike Bush here because the most vocal Bush-supporter has, fortunately, gone quiet again.

gunner154 · December 8, 2004

And the anti-Bush are sooo vocal... think Michael Moore. *sigh*

I'd like to watch a Conservative film or something to see the other viewpoint... everybody in my school and my home think I'm just plain biased and that I don't get my facts right.

Dante · December 8, 2004

The conservatives have government propaganda and to a degree religious mania. They don't need films.

nemafakei · December 8, 2004

"So is it just me or are we having too many democrats around here?"

If, by "here", you mean Fed2k, most of its members don't come from the US, so the opinion you get of Bush will be a more holistic one, even if it's not representative of the support he receives at home.

Put another way, a president who doesn't care about the international

Also bear in mind that the political spectrum does not hang between Democrat and Republican, but extends to many other views. Personally, I find Kerry far too right-wing.

gunner154 · December 9, 2004

I used to simply link non-republicans to being left-wing and republicans to being right-wing... so what do these wings actually mean? there is no dictionary that explains this...

also, if kerry were to become president, would that make the republicans left-wing?

nemafakei · December 9, 2004

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Is particularly useful.

And perhaps

http://www.dune2k.com/forum/index.php?topic=14495.0

Ninja_Sher · December 31, 2004

See... as I said: NO SUPERPOWER. We don't need it!

Agreed. Only moderate powers and strong UN ( not controlled by any particular nation ).

Acriku · January 3, 2005

It's kind of too late to not want America a superpower, or any country for that matter. It's not something any country would give up willingly.

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