Darkon Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I love the harkonnen theory and politics but... i think they are a total crap I don't know but i think they're forces are sooo weak example: inkvine too weak firepower,rocket tank hp like my granny,devastator 6cm per hour,assault tank 6m per hour,flame tank (why the hell is there a flame tank and inkvine???) that's the problem of harkonnens> if someone can help me out i would be very grateful ;D and also they have a BRUTAL DISADVANTAGE THEY CAN'T REPAIR THEY'RE TANKS i know when they reach the second level they will have the self heal ability but when i reach teh second level the children of my children will have children 90 years old!!!! SO HOW COULD I PLAY EFFECTIVELY WITH HARKONNENS I DON'T FIGURE IT OUT YET >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(SO if YOU are a master of HK PLease Help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2429 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I love the harkonnen theory and politics but... i think they are a total crap I don't know but i think they're forces are sooo weak LOL weak??? ???How is saws blasting there way threw dusties or sand bikes and some tanks added to kill any mino or cobra weak? Devs are to damb slow but that's why there are advance carryals to move them and drop em in ur unsuspecting base. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Ermmmm,I am at a loss of words at what to say at this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 your not forced to say anything at all :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_ghola Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Harkonen is a very strong house if you can manage all the vehicles. I would rather show you personally how to manage harkonen units but i dont know who you are... House harkonen IMO is made primarily to be on the offensive constantly, a player whos goal is to win from the defensive position is in for either a very long game or defeat. There are certain types of rushes for certain situations, against ordos and atr light rushes which consist of light vehicles, and infantry, use alot of blades along with light infantry and sardukar(imperial sardukar are extremely important, do not try to exclude them from the rush), try to mix in a few assault tanks and flame tanks to gain the edge over the enemy. Do not use this rush against a house if they have kobras deployed or minos, in this situation it wouldnt be wise to confront them head on, but to use missle tanks, ink vines, fremen, and so forth... as long as the unit has enough power to take out the heavier units. I barely scratched the surface and i could go on for awhile but then theres too much to cover so i would rather stop here... yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Like Ken124578 said before,Harkonnen's offense is its defense.Points to note:-Harkonnen units have a lot of armor and HP-Their firepower is good-They can rush well-They can hold on late into the game---Late into the game,they will have loads of gunshipsYou will realise how good they are-if you use them well :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_ghola Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 -They can hold on late into the game---Late into the game,they will have loads of gunshipsit depends on what kind of player your going up against which determines how long your going stay in the game, you cant just decide out of the blue. Gunships are most effective early in the game, in late games gunships are useless, unless playing against an ordos player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Right... ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan_ghola Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 im glad we can finally agree lowzeewee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Well it's true. Harkonnen can only survive late game against an Ordos player (or another hark of course). Against a good ATR they are pretty screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkon Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 Well it's true that when i use a great combinations and tactics its no problem to be succesful.the main problem when i use a great combination and tactic with other house i can crush everyone like a bug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Isn't being successful enough? ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkon Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 Well if i didn't hate the atreides so much i would play with them.problem is i love atreides units but i hate atreides.i hate Harkonnen units but i love the harkonnen politics.ordos are too neutral for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warskum Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 No house sucks on this game U suck with the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkon Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 Hm maybe you're right. ??? i don't say that some house sucks. i only say that i don't like the house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warskum Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 u sayd it was crap and the units were weak, so that means that u think hark sucks ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkon Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 :P :PHm trying to be funny huh ??? Yes i was thinking that the hark are crap but... i went to this forum coz .(read the whole text not only the part with the crap).i wanted to know more about hark. so when i learn more about hark i figured out that they are so crapy ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff2429 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 No house sucks on this game U suck with the house.Yep it is all in the player. The houses are good you just got to know how to use em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 :P :PHm trying to be funny huh ??? Yes i was thinking that the hark are crap but... i went to this forum coz .(read the whole text not only the part with the crap).i wanted to know more about hark. so when i learn more about hark i figured out that they are so crapy ;DAll those smilies,exclaimations marks and capitalized words in that post,OMG,you sure *imply* that... :)Yes,its the player,not the house. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkon Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 Well i was playing the last three days with the harkonnen and yes i submit i do not have experience yes it was not in the house. i find out that harkonnen are not craps they are best!!!1 ; ;D.I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Its in yourself. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyan - Fremen Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Well It may be of the way you assault that you cant be that successfull with them. To assault properly, know each unit's purpose, advantages, and disadvatages. You said that Devastators are slow, then use Adv-Carryals to ferry them, get 3 Devastators behind an enemy base and watch them grind it down. When you assault, put units like Assault Tanks and Buzzsaws infront to squish/attract firepower from the enemy while the other light armored units-that you said one of them was the Missle Tank-come in behind or from the side to deal alot of damage, use the missle tanks against heavy vehicles and Inkvines against anti-armor infantry, they are incredibly usefull against Kindjals and Mortars. A lob from the Inkvine Catapult into an enemy infantry formation will give him/her a hell of a time micromanaging the troops out of the radius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terenas77 Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 All those strats require LOT of micromanagement.With Atreides you just need to produce the right combination of units and watching the fireworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollyon Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Alternatively, if harkonnen attacks atriedes early all they need to do is create the right units and watch the slaughter. If the Atreides is to survive they need HUGE IMMENSE AWE-INSPIRING micromanagement...Lol... And if you beleive that you'll believe anything. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terenas77 Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 I always found Atreides a "n00b friendly" army while Harkonnen and elite player's army.My 12yrs old sister beated a hard harks army on skirmish using minos and airdrones. Thats so sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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