thomas Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 it seems this thread has become a full fledge flame war, now I want to stay out of this because I dont know the whole story.
Apollyon Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 Show me one biased and non-sensical post I've made, number6. Show me where I pointed fingers (which is by the way what you just did to myself and Caid without any provocation). "Edit --- I guess we should add newt to the list of the complainers. I do see a pattern here. All are Editing members. Maybe this is just a Landsraad versus editing thing. "Ooh ya that must be it. So you say *we're* making conspiracy theories?
quoudam72 Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 It has become a big deal cause you all requested it to be such a big deal. We (Landsraad) kept the details out and didn't interfear and let things going, until we got the blame for not being honest.This in a way summurizes the problem and at the essence why we make the decisions about who should be Landraad. Is it nessessary for Ex to post about this in general I mean ask yourselves that question. The problem is about gossip. About who said what and why oh give us a break with this monkey foolishness. Yes some of the Landsraad memebers are harden but if you see/hear enough of this crap you yourself would be harden. TMA I always try to give people the benifit of my doubts but sometimes they prove me wrong.Ex you can never seem to stay of out trouble. You get accused of things because you are always into things. If there is a fire you always seem to be the one holding the matches.
Nyarlathotep Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 how in the hell can I interprit if I dont even know what you said exactly.lol you just said I must have gotten information somewhere.why are you now accusing other people that they have a grudge. they are actually being very fair, they want answers. dont be so high and mighty.I told you many time TMA, YOU are the source of this gettig way further then it has to go. It's that Apollyon for some reason doesn't dare to ask you the question I asked him, I therefore can't do anymore then I've done. I think I've presented our case, yet you haven't proven anything...Everyone believes what he/she want's to believe.
Apollyon Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 "It's that Apollyon for some reason doesn't dare to ask you the question "I already answered that. You won't give us any evidence and TMA has answered the said question. It's up to you as the "prosecuting party" to provide us with evidence to sway our minds.
TMA_1 Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 good grief, there is no excuse for being so one sided, even if people give you crap. is there an excuse for a man that beats his wife, simply because he was beaten as a child? there is empathy, sure. you can understand why he does it, as I can understand why you are hard of heart. but there is no excuse for it. You do give the benefit of the doubt a lot, I cannot deny that, but I didnt do anything.
Apollyon Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 Frankly I think this should end here. The continuation of this will serve no purpose. Whether Ex is guilty or not is irrelevent as if the landsraad simply didn't like him there would be equal ground for hi removal. This isn't going anywhere soon so let's stop.
number6 Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 Do you want me to share your IM's TMA? I will if that's what you want. I doubt you do and I am too much of a gentlemen to share such stuff here without at least asking permission first. I am game if you are TMA. I will share my posts in Landsraad about you and your IM's to me.
TMA_1 Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 its up to you man. but I still didnt do it, and you cant attack ex.but as I said for awhile now, this should end soon.
Nyarlathotep Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 but as I said for awhile now, this should end soon.If you can't take the heat, you shouldn't have started this..
Caid Ivik Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 Bah, then this is practice of secret services in times of war. Landsraad is becoming a new Lodge, maybe first online ::) lol...
Apollyon Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 No no no, you misunderstand me. I mean I can't judge without seeing the IMs/posts, afterall I can't see whether they are similar or whatever. But I maintain that that's irrelevent, as is proving your point because it won't serve any purpose, Ex will stay out of the landsraad whether it is considered morally wrong or not, simply because of the vote.
Dunenewt Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 Ok, let me make my point clear, I have no problem against the Landsraad in general just the secrecy behind it
Apollyon Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 Ok, let me make my point clear, I have no problem against the Landsraad in general just the secrecy behind itQuite. That and perhaps some of the arrogance, but I think this thread has at least been fruitful in clearing that up. :-*And Nyar, that's my point. I CAN'T SEE THE POSTS OR IMs lol. Without that I can't tell if what you say is true in that they are as similar (the IM and Post) as you say.
Dunenewt Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 If me and Apollyon started talking about, say, Ordos45 (only an example...or maybe not lol) in the Forum/Editing Board and then the arguement spilled over into the General Board I think most of the Landsraad and other members would be annoyed about that
number6 Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 its up to you man. but I still didnt do it, and you cant attack ex.but as I said for awhile now, this should end soon.OK I will take that as a yes. I don't have your first IM asking for help. Here was your reply to me after helping:your right, and now I sound pretty immature.lol oh well, we all have our failings. maybe I should just kinda stay away from prp, as many including you have pointed out my obvious problem of taking things too seriously. thank you and I know I was a bother but it really helped a lot. Here is what I posted in Landsraad:on: August 18, 2003, 19:55:24
Dunenewt Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 And now Frodo is leaving aswell - Whats going on??
Apollyon Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 "You don't have to see posts or IM's. I've given a turn of events, which your client doens't even care to defend. Still the question stands, how did he know ?"Yes but I don't have to believe your turn of events, Nyar.I must admit those do look a little similar and suspicious. Hmm, that is a shame.
TMA_1 Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 good grief! I did not get any info from ex, how many times do I have to say that? why in the hell would I accept him to let all of it out? I admitted it was similar, and that isnt true that you were sweetness and light before I confronted you. You became indignent, and even told me things that made me respond with what I did, as I said before. how many times do I have to say this?I am glad you find this so amusing nyar, the emotions of ex really mean a lot to you dont they? I will continue to say no because I will not lie, I didnt get any info from ex.
Nyarlathotep Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 I am glad you find this so amusing nyar, the emotions of ex really mean a lot to you dont they? I will continue to say no because I will not lie, I didnt get any info from ex.Stop putting the blame on me TMA, I said a million times, YOU brought this the way it is now. Face the things coming your way they are, as they are your own doing.
Frodo Posted August 28, 2003 Posted August 28, 2003 And now Frodo is leaving aswell - Whats going on??I am leaving, this recent set of events made me want to leave sooner, but i would've declared my retirement as soon as swim season started again anyway. I would just like to say that i am very dissapointed in what is happening between the Editing Team and the Landsraad. I no longer have access to the Editing Team board, but i would really hope that you don't start plotting against the landsraad. please remember, we are not here to argue.
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