Don't get it.

[Dude_Doc]

There are neo-Nazis who believe that the Holocaust never took place. In that case, why do they hate the Jews so much? Anybody knows? ???

[Caid Ivik]

Most neonazists believe it is just a conspiratial saying of sionists. One of such people is Mahmud Abbas Mazen, new premier of "free" Palestine. He says there were killed only 8 000 Jews by Hitler's regime, of course all where just political opposers or civilian criminals. Anyway, in Slovakia is such saying called a "Lie of Oswiencim", and it is punished like any other propagation of nazism.

[Davidu]

I dunno.

Have you noticed that there aren't any nazi posters around here?

We've got communist, neutral, but no nazis.

[Cyborg]

Maybe because being a nazi is not very popular... ;D

[Davidu]

Neither a communist...

I know only one true fascist, BTW.

[Cyborg]

do you mean that it's not pupular to be a communist?

[Davidu]

As far as I see it around me neither nazis nor communists are liked.

I dunno in other countries...

[Cyborg]

I don't know if Edric is hated, but he is a communist.

[Anathema]

There are very few commies in the Netherlands, but they're not shunned from society or anything.

[Davidu]

I didn't say hated. I meant disliked. When people hear that a person belongs to such a faction, they start to fear that person ( judging only by the faction they belong to) thus these people become slightly disliked...

[Cyborg]

I don't actually care if someone is a communist.

But being a nazi is crossing the line with a few steps...

[Davidu]

Why?

[Cyborg]

because communist is a quite wide definition...

Communists want the world to be a large society without money, without a state, without property and without social classes. (a simple explanation)

The nazies, however, are more "evil" by the way they think. To want one skincolor and to unite the world in similar ways doesn't appeal to me.

[Davidu]

Well, the communists want to unite the world in the same way too, and about the one skin colour... Well, there was a black leader in Africa ( dunno where) that beleived so hard in the nazi ideals he wanted to build Hitler a statue, and actually kidnapped a whole plane full of Israelians whom he wanted to execute.

But who is more evil? (Nowadays?) It's not nazi guerrillas they're fighting in South America, Cuba isn't nazi, nor the North Corea.

I'm not supporting any of them - I want to treat them in equal terms.

[Cyborg]

Why I don't like nazies is maybe because the way they act in Norway.

They are responsible for many "terrorist" deeds. :(

But what I hear about nazies on tv is only a tiny fraction of the total number of them, so I assume I don't have any big reason of disliking nazies. It's because of their past...

[Davidu]

Well, both the nazis and the communists did a lot of trashy things. The nazis did some nasty things in Romania as well, so I dislike them too, but I want to treat them as I treat other radicals.

[Apollyon]

Remember there's a difference between The Nazis and nationalism

[Cyborg]

Yes there is a big difference.

[Gobalopper]

When you say Nazi you think immediately of Hitler whereas communism doesn't always mean you start thinking of the USSR. Now if someone said they were a Stalinist then I think you would get the same effect as saying you were a Nazi.

Communism isn't actually looked about in a good light either since it has never really worked out but it doesn't have the same connotations Nazi or fascist would.

[Dude_Doc]

Nazism and fascism are not same. People do mix these two, because one of them is evil, but the other is just too strict. Nazism includes racial difference, eugenics and so on. Fascism doesn't have to be nationalistic. It can be a global movement, without racial difference. Like in "Starship Troopers".

[Navaros]

facism ownz. nothing to do with being racist at all.

Nazis hated the Jews because Jews are shrewd businessman (that's not an insult) and were taking business away from the white people

[Zopwx2]

most neonazis just need someone to blame for their problems and here comes the arayan nation or whatever with a great explanation. it happens all the time all ovet the world. in parts of the middle east its america and israels fault. Some people say its the blacks and the mexicans. there isnt a whole lot of thought behind it. its just the "its not my fault" attitude.

[SurlyPIG]

"When you say Nazi you think immediately of Hitler whereas communism doesn't always mean you start thinking of the USSR."

Personally I do. Whenever I hear communist I think Lenin, Stalin, Brezhnev etc. The whole red gang. Socialism or Marxism is another matter, though...

[Anathema]

facism ownz. nothing to do with being racist at all.

Nazis hated the Jews because Jews are shrewd businessman (that's not an insult) and were taking business away from the white people

Jews were often shunned from most occupations, and thus were forced to go into certain occupations, like science or business.

Jews were disliked almost everywhere at that time, and the notion that Jews were responsible for all the misery in Germany was just nazi propaganda.

[Edric O]

Communists want to build a better world for everyone. Fascists want to violently forge a better world for a select few (especially themselves) and to kill or enslave the rest. It's obvious why you can't look at both movements in the same way.

Fascism and Communism are not two extremes with Capitalism in the middle. In fact, Communism and (pure) Capitalism are the extremes, with our current society somewhere in the middle. Fascism has no economical system of its own, so it's completely outside the left-right scale.

Communism is the opposite of Capitalism.

Fascism is the opposite of Anarchism.