Krazyorse Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 i play since a long time with brennq..now i play a lot of skirmish with him or vs him and i can say we kick a lot of ass! ;Dhe is a really good hark player , fair and a really good mate!he don't need to cheat..lol...he kicks the ass of most of emperor players!!when he lost , he lost! doesn't need escuse...he could have done multinick, i understand him...when u can't play a qm cause most of the players are scared...u ve to change .....i don't call that cheating, in qm!in bc ok! but not in qm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 11, 2002 Author Share Posted November 11, 2002 i play since a long time with brennq..now i play a lot of skirmish with him or vs him and i can say we kick a lot of ass! ;Dhe is a really good hark player , fair and a really good mate!he don't need to cheat..lol...he kicks the ass of most of emperor players!!when he lost , he lost! doesn't need escuse...he could have done multinick, i understand him...when u can't play a qm cause most of the players are scared...u ve to change .....i don't call that cheating, in qm!in bc ok! but not in qm.....hmm, maybe we should have a vote wether to see if people think multi nicking is a crime in qm.All i know is that there are 207 players playing qm and there are 12 multi nickers (without brennq just 11).That means 5% is multi nicking and 95% NOT !!!!Darn, in holland the crime percentage compared to the inhabitants is even higher..So should we allow crime, i don't think so ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzi0n Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Well multinicking is a crime, but the problem with this is that it is so hard to see if it is intended or not.Like my case and brennq's case, i think mine is more obvious but on the other hand like krazy said, brennq doesnt have to cheat to get a high rank.I think the best would be if we vote or something on this board (evryone but nav ofcourse) ofcourse it is unfair to the non-board members but then again they wont see the winners list. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopydooky Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 How did u make the program??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 12, 2002 Author Share Posted November 12, 2002 With ColdFusion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 All i know is that there are 207 players playing qm and there are 12 multi nickers (without brennq just 11).I always said Qm was the same 5 guys playing each other under different names and none of them knew, but they each thought they were screwing the other guys over. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVO Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 you were right ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rin0c3rus Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 All i know is that there are 207 players playing qm and there are 12 multi nickers (without brennq just 11).I always said Qm was the same 5 guys playing each other under different names and none of them knew, but they each thought they were screwing the other guys over. ;DMakes more matches and more gmaes played dont you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 But they're the same 5 guys!! Just under different logins. ^-^But I cant prove it... it's just something thats too funny to be true, but its not that far from the truth. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 Well Rino, it is obviously that u are in the multi nicking thing.If you would have played the games with your normal nick, the amount of games would be the same ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Exactly, it will still be the same amount of games except the points wont be messed up cause of ppl pushing rank or fake clans (QM or BC). And then if we say oh its ok for this one person becasue they have an older brother who sometimes like to pay... well ya know my grand pa likes the game so I can give him a name and he can play from here and make a clan, and then everybodies uncels mother will want a nick and a clan ::) Just use one name for QM Just use one name for BC. Save your incognito's for skirmishs... just dont get mad when yu get kcik cause noone reconizes the name and mistakes you for a n00b. ^-^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 Qm in Numbers till November 13, 2002, 09:50:04Amount of players:234 (inclusive multi nickers)Amount of games:515 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarb Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Love your work marcel keep it up dudeThanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted November 24, 2002 Author Share Posted November 24, 2002 Due to errors on the Westwood server, i can't get any Clans which have a lower rank then 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowzeewee Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 With ColdFusion..where do u get it?CNet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjCiD Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Nope, a Russian scientist and 200 bottles of Vodka later he spilled the beans on Cold Fusion ^-^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted December 1, 2002 Author Share Posted December 1, 2002 FINAL LIST NOVEMBER:Matching IP found: 100.96.9X.XXX Player: C3l = J3az = Matching IP found: 105.112.13X.XXX Player: Leb0b = M1tr4nd1r = Matching IP found: 112.75.13X.XXX Player: Mant0us = Rin0c3rus = Matching IP found: 122.248.25X.XXX Player: Ipfun = Ipspain = Nanfer = Matching IP found: 131.160.19X.XXX Player: Blluecat = Igarashi0 = Matching IP found: 142.113.25X.XXX Player: Pychostpr = Rodger885 = Matching IP found: 142.225.8X.XXX Player: Icehawk37 = Ranger232 = Matching IP found: 148.81.23X.XXX Player: Bertjess = Michiel09 = Matching IP found: 149.65.4X.XXX Player: Locknlo4d = Rawsk1llz = Matching IP found: 159.158.11X.XXX Player: Balrog567 = Fab4ce = Matching IP found: 159.212.25X.XXX Player: Ipfun = Nanfer = Matching IP found: 17.131.19X.XXX Player: Maxima9 = Minofitr = Matching IP found: 208.174.4X.XXX Player: M0osho0 = Mstad3m0n = Matching IP found: 225.165.1X.XXX Player: Ipspain = Nanfer = Matching IP found: 23.25.14X.XXX Player: Blkstar10 = Tone911 = Toneblk = Tonelucky = Matching IP found: 234.37.25X.XXX Player: Ipfun = Nanfer = Matching IP found: 242.92.22X.XXX Player: Godnegra = Neuras19 = Matching IP found: 248.87.10X.XXX Player: Forduk453 = Forduke40 = Matching IP found: 37.27.2X.XXX Player: Derherz0g = Dertod26 = Xerxer100 = Matching IP found: 40.26.2X.XXX Player: Dertod26 = Taurin001 = Matching IP found: 47.212.25X.XXX Player: Ipspain = Nanfer = Matching IP found: 53.6.23X.XXX Player: Jimmy650 = Wutek305 = Matching IP found: 70.183.20X.XXX Player: Leb0b = M1tr4nd1r = Matching IP found: 82.80.18X.XXX Player: J4y1980 = Zcbtt58 = Matching IP found: 84.116.13X.XXX Player: Leb0b = M1tr4nd1r = Matching IP found: 98.190.11X.XXX Player: Brennq = Nathanus = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co1dsteel Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 Well i just want to know if somebody actually has the power here to stop someone from playing?You talk about not letting Brennq play, but i wonder whos gonna stop him. BTW i understand that Brennq has a brother that plays. Heck i have a little brother that likes to play once in a while. And i believe EVERYONE should be able to enjoy EMPEROR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taqwa11 Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 Yes, Marcel, that's an inherent weakness with the QM ladder--multi-nicking. But your info, with all its good intentions, proves nothing. I have my own Emperor game, and my son has his. We both have our own computer. Our IP address is, of course, the same. We play each other regularly. If we both played QM (which we don't, but we could), you would find taqwa11 and dbz823 with the same IP address and call us cheaters. However, that would be wrong. I agree with you, however, that probably most of the QM players you mentioned are not simply sharing an IP address with a sibling, but rather are multi-nick cheating by using two nicks on the ladder. That's one reason why I've never really gotten into QM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted December 2, 2002 Author Share Posted December 2, 2002 Well, that is a reason why i don't call it the Cheater list, but the IP Matching List. People can decide for their selves who is who.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rin0c3rus Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Well i just want to know if somebody actually has the power here to stop someone from playing?You talk about not letting Brennq play, but i wonder whos gonna stop him. BTW i understand that Brennq has a brother that plays. Heck i have a little brother that likes to play once in a while. And i believe EVERYONE should be able to enjoy EMPEROR! i totaly agree with my friend cold my brother also playes emperor... but people like marcel dont get that we have siblings...it aint always the case some people do really multinick but how are you gona find out if its a sibling or if he really is multinicking...And myself sometimes my friends come over and they just decide to have a qm... so i dont really care anymore no one is gonna stop me from playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co1dsteel Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Yeah i used to play a couple of games at Rino's house. That would count as multi-nick cheating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted December 2, 2002 Author Share Posted December 2, 2002 I am not in charge of multi nicking. But there was a big request of checking multi nicking. This is the only way possible...I just show who is who with IP, i do not judge or condamn or tell people not to play.I JUST COMPARE IP'S !!!! >:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co1dsteel Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 well im not blaming anything on you marcel. Im just thinking that IP matching helps to find who people are but besides that it just causes trouble. Too many variables (siblings, friends). There is no sure way of finding who is multi-nicking and who is not. IPs only shows whos playing on the same computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel71 Posted December 2, 2002 Author Share Posted December 2, 2002 So should i do IP match for December or not ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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