AlteaDeo Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Had been alone? I mean, leto II died born, Paul and Chani didn't had any twin. But only a girl?;)seems weird to think about, still.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Then we'd all die in kralized :OUnless Ghanima got a kid with the same abilities as LetoII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Ghanima was the strongest of them all, as Leto the 2nd said. She is the only one that never did become an "abomination". Leto was just the dominate one in his abomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 But she can't save our asses from the scary enemy we know nothing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMA_1 Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Well its more than that. He saved the people from stagnating. Saved the people from a stagnet gene pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 If she was alone she probably would have gone through the Golden Path herself, if possible. Since she has "abilities" she would know that it was inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Ghanima was the strongest of them all, as Leto the 2nd said. She is the only one that never did become an "abomination". Leto was just the dominate one in his abomination. Leto wasn't abomination. He even controlled his ancestors' minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 [quote author=Acriku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahdi Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Ghanima was the strongest of them all, as Leto the 2nd said. She is the only one that never did become an "abomination". Leto was just the dominate one in his abomination. Leto wasn't abomination. He even controlled his ancestors' minds.In one of his conversations with Duncan,Leto states that Ghanima was the strongest of the two, because she was the only ne who avoided bomination. Even he had to make a pack with one of his ancestors, a brutal warrior with some complicated name. nliekAlia, however, he was the dominante one in the arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Both of them formed pacts with their ancestors. Ghanima had her mother to protect her from the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard3000 Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Even he had to make a pack with one of his ancestors, a brutal warrior with some complicated name.Was that Agammemnon? I can't remember if Leto made the "pact" with him, or if he just mentioned Agammemnon somehwere along the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteaDeo Posted October 25, 2002 Author Share Posted October 25, 2002 well, Herbert father never made any of thatkind of "direct" link with Atreides / Atrides's connection ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acriku Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 I thought he did talk about Agamemnon and the link of Atreides ancestry dates back to the greek times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 Agamemnon was not a brute warrior! He was a noble king. Worth of his family. Even after 30000 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 I remember thinking the brutal warrior was a general of Hammurabi, or something. It wasn't Agamemnon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Wasn't Hammurabi a Babylonian king? I'd look it up but I got the dune books from a library.Agamenon was the Greek dude who came home from Troje to get killed by his wife because he had a girlfriend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteaDeo Posted October 28, 2002 Author Share Posted October 28, 2002 yup, that guy was a Babylonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caid Ivik Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 There were many brutal warriors in our history, but Agamemnon and Hammurapi weren't known actually for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Agamenon was the Greek dude who came home from Troje to get killed by his wife because he had a girlfriend.Nope, his wife killed him because he sacrificed their daugther before he went off to have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Well, neither of them are very nice things to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sadukar Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 now thats right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Ok, Ok...Agamemnon sacrificed Iphegenia, his daughter, because otherwise the ships wouldn't have got out the harbour to get to Troy. During the siege, Orestes, Ag's son was packed off to boarding school, his remaining systers were left with Clytemnestra (Ag's wife). At Troy, Agamemnon found himself a consort among some slaves taken from a village near Troy. Meanwhile, Clyt. and Aegisthus (Ag's cousin) lived as man and wife. These two then killed Ag. and his consort when they returned. Electra, who disliked this and complained, was forced to live in the cellar, mourning her dead father, waiting for Orestes to return so they could avenge the death of their father, by killing their mother, which they then did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteaDeo Posted October 30, 2002 Author Share Posted October 30, 2002 uh? Oreste wasn't Agamnemon's son? I saw a play last year, and Oreste was the main character... A girl! ?Or I just mix some characters because a name is similar in English and the way we write it in french ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Electra was the main character of the play electra. Her brother, Orestes, is the one who returns with his teacher, the Paedagogos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteaDeo Posted October 31, 2002 Author Share Posted October 31, 2002 well, the play I saw was the story of Oreste, still, that was a girl... Wait gonna check something....[5 minutes later]awwwwwwwwww... I've just mixed two play ;0 of course Oreste was a guy.. Still, what was the other play I saw... geeeezzzzz.....[5 minutes later]Yeah! That was Antigone, by Sohplocle ;) looooooool, really not the same thing ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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