Devastator_Mech Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 Yea, as an early defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLContaminator Posted September 18, 2002 Author Share Posted September 18, 2002 has anyone seen the 6th season of buffy the vampire slayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 has anyone seen the 6th season of buffy the vampire slayerROFLMAO!!!! :D I'm a hardcore Buffy fan!! But this thread will get locked if this gets off topic too much, so no discussing it here. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 LOLBack to the topic: the APC don't worth $900 if your only using them as an AA defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 Well as the Ordos, I find the APC worth more for engi drops. The AA defence doesn't help much, because aircraft can eliminate Ordos APC's quite easily and quickly (1 no chevron Gunship will kill 1 no chevron Ordos APC in 2 hits). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 I know, thats why AA troopers and AA mine is recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLContaminator Posted September 19, 2002 Author Share Posted September 19, 2002 i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 But as an early defence, there's no way your gonna have AA mines and Troopers on the battlefield, they'll die too quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Well, you could use APC's for defending spice fields against AirDrones. The APC is the fastest AA unit of all (on ground) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Besides air-drones, APC's are the fastest AA units for all house's units, and besides Ornithopter if you consider them to be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 ornithopters are units that can shoot air units sooo..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Yes i know they can, but thats not their primary purpose, thus, i MUST specifically order them before they'll attack any aerial targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 perhaps... never used ornithopters so much, they're not worth their price tag... but if they are just like an gunship they can also attack enemy units while moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Ornithopter are very strong in groups. They don't do as much damage as Gunships, but they are ALOT faster. And with alot, thet can destroy bases too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtz Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 uhn i hate Ornitopter they are to weak ;D But they have a great speed, ok they can destroy bases but if some1 have a small aa devensive it should be not a big problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Airborne isn't weak if you haven't so much air-defence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IxianMace Posted September 21, 2002 Share Posted September 21, 2002 Well if you're going to use large groups of Ornithopters, you should use it against House Ordos then. Atreides have Air Drones which eat Ornithopters faster than Gunships, and Harkonnen are the best house when it comes to AA defence (Gun-turrets, Missile Tanks, etc, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken124578 Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 ornithopters aren't as good as you think they are, scatter aa defences around the base, they'll shoot some down and when an building gets serieus damage get an engineer in, i'm sure most orni's have shot their ammo empty by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 perhaps... never used ornithopters so much, they're not worth their price tag... but if they are just like an gunship they can also attack enemy units while moving.Yes they can, but they won't attack aerial units automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 perhaps... never used ornithopters so much, they're not worth their price tag... but if they are just like an gunship they can also attack enemy units while moving.Yes your right about that, 1 Gunship is like 2 Ornithopters combined together, but can't attack 2 target at the same time, have slightly less armor than 2 Ornithopters and have 1/2 the speed. They're only worth $500-$600 at the most. Or the Gunship should cost atleast $1500 if the Ornithopters does worth $1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Ornithopter's speed advantage wouldn't help them much, they're gonna hover anyway when attacking.Gunship is always better unless your gonna have them flying across the battlefield and let them target and attack automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Dodging... With that speed you can dodge alot of missiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 When they attack, they aren't gonna fly at full speed when attacking, they're gonna hover. (when an specific order is confirmed)And thats why i said, "unless your gonna have them flying across the battlefield and let them target and attack automatically" in my post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timenn Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 I said the dodge ALOT of missiles, so when they are reloading (not on the helipad I mean) I let them dodge much missile, and then they return, because they fire very quickly after they have taken firing positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devastator_Mech Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Well trust me, from hovering to start moving is far from enough time to dodge missiles, even the fastest unit in the game can't do so(a regular carryall might be the ONLY exception, i think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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