The Harkonnen Airstrike

[ethan]

i find using 3-5 adps in groups are good. but i dont know how much they cost....

[Devastator_Mech]

5 x $1500, what do you think? According to my math2 skills, it should be $7500.00.

And you could build more than 75 Troopers or 5 Missiles or 4 Devastators, which they are all must more efftective AA units. So its not recommended to build ADP as primary AA defence.

[Timenn]

Two AA mines cost 1200 solaris (2x600). One Gunship costs 1000 solaris. So you'd eventually lose more money than the Harkonnen player if you killed 1 Gunship for every 2 AA mines, which is inefficient.

Yeah, but if you are going to die, you don't give anything about money, just to save your base...

[Devastator_Mech]

Your do not need 2 AA mines to destroy a Gunship, 1 AA mine + 1 AA trooper is enough.

[ken124578]

try to micromanage 30 aa mines and 30 aa troopers in AN FEW SECONDS and HOPE all the missiles in the aa mines!

[Devastator_Mech]

Who is that dumb? Countering them when they're already at YOUR base !!!

[ken124578]

wel, i don't expect you to build an outpost ::)

[Devastator_Mech]

What? Are you trying to tell me you don't build an outpost? I always build it after my 2nd or 1st warfac(depends) on my economy.

[ken124578]

i don't expect YOU to build an outposts ::)

[Devastator_Mech]

Why is that the case?

[Baronvonflames]

i hope that everybody builds outposts, because if they dont i think they're missing a few screws

[Devastator_Mech]

DON'T build an outpost too early, think about it about when the 2nd factory is ready.

i don't expect YOU to build an outposts ::)

If you think so, you're very wrong

[Ghosty_Square]

By what way can you? beside cheats. You can build a Gunship much faster than train an Elite, therefore, you can build an air-force much quicker than build a force of Elites.

Yeah but to build a hangar you also need a factory while to get a sard barracks you only need your house's barracks.

Furthermore, the Hangar takes more time to build than the sard barracks. And the sard barracks are cheaper so you build them earlier in the game, while to build up the tech tree up to the gunship you need more money, therefore you will have spend more time in which to esatblish a strong economy.

So you can amass more sard elite faster than gunships

[Baronvonflames]

2nd factory?? :O i must be missing a few screws

[Devastator_Mech]

Indeed Ghosty_Square, i haven't thought of that point, but you get my point, right?

2nd factory?? :O i must be missing a few screws

Don't you ever build 2 or 3 warfactory?

[Baronvonflames]

i can barely ever get on and when i could i was a newb and didnt think about a 2nd or 3rd factory

[Devastator_Mech]

You could build a devastator within 15 sec if you have 3 warfactories, is that an advantage?

And within 11 sec for an assault tank.(normal game speed)

[Baronvonflames]

:O cool beans

[ken124578]

You could build a devastator within 15 sec if you have 3 warfactories, is that an advantage?

And within 11 sec for an assault tank.(normal game speed)

building an devastator within 15 seconds is not recommended (unless you have an good econemy) because an devastator = 1700 bucks, building it within 15 seconds would mean that 100+ solaris is spend in building the devastator per second.

[Devastator_Mech]

I don't get your point. No matter how fast the unit is built, it's cost will always be the same.

[Baronvonflames]

if you build more than one sardaukar barracks, do the sards build faster?

[Devastator_Mech]

Everything is the same, 1 structure = 100%, 2 structure = 150%, 3 or more structure = 200%

[ken124578]

I don't get your point. No matter how fast the unit is built, it's cost will always be the same.

look at like this:

you have 5k and you need devastators and infantry units of the house and subhouses.

normally this would be divided into: 50% for infantry units and 50% for devastators but if you build devastators too fast in an short period of time it'll more likely be 90% for the devastators and 10% for infantry units.

infantry units are equally important as tanks (if its the right type and has good protection)

[Devastator_Mech]

Even so, it doesn't mean an EXTRA $100 is spent on each second building a Devastator.

[Baronvonflames]

Everything is the same, 1 structure = 100%, 2 structure = 150%, 3 or more structure = 200%

okay thanks