nampigai Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 may they all die a horrible death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 lolollets burn them all 8) 8)that the night will have light from the bodys :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrex Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 If you like rushes or not, I don't give a wooden nickel. ::)Simpel fact is that if you don't build some quick forces early on I will totally spank ya aars.And what I do is not rushing, it's moving my defence line to my opponents base! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DOrdos = Mobility. If you expect an ordos player to build up defence and wait till you come annihilate it you are an idiot. Ordos has weak armor generally so it needs to win by "sneakyness".If I see a large force comming to a spicefield where my las tanks have some quality time with my enemy harvesters I will move them away. No point in fighting a battle you can't win. Ordos may have weak armor but they won't lose units in pointless fights...And besides, when I anoy my enemy he is to busy to defend so he won't start a good attack on me. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrex Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 I do hate those real rushers that just set their waypiont from their factory to my base and build Buzzsaws like hell when we start with 30k credits...I however useally only play games with 10k begin credits so it's not really effective then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 I'm an atreides player. I like to build a solid defence and from there, make offence against one (maybe a few) target(s) at a time.Rushing is just annoying. One thing to do in games of 3+ players is the rule of peacetime. This is agreed upon for a set time, and no attacks are allowed. Any breach of this brings all players' wraths down onto the head of the offender. Scouts are usually allowed close to, but not into bases (they can be killed if they come too close.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 i thought rushes were apart of all warfare. i mainly use rushes for harvester harassment and entrapment. Using fast units to bring in the big fishes, and BAM, start reeling in (using carryalls is fun, sabotuers even more fun, but deviators are just plain evil ;D)Rushes cause confusion and rash decisons, which are vital in every campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Rushes can be used be effectively, but if you dont like them, thats fine, its just a spiffy tatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Yes, but most campaigns don't often start with two units facing off (MCVs) and the number growing. Most start with large armies, which are depleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Those rushes are strategically useful when used against an opponent. Most people are annoyed with them for the reasons you said that you used them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 it really depends on the unit you use, for intance last night i was playing online and someone rushed me with devastators! go figure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Were they rushed in on 'foot'?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 and Nema, i was refering to other RTSs, but what you said would apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Within_Blue Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Evilbaron........how could they use devastators!!! Im suprised they attepted it ;DI've never actually used rushes in battle other than a quick go to see what its was like in some skirmishes against AI. I think the main reason everyone is p***ed off about them is how effective it can be.Nema, I use the tactics as you do and I think its one of the bestways to go about it. I used play the game called Cossacks in which yuo could have peace time and no-one was aloowed to attack.I think that it should also be included in the game. Over-all im agreeing with you fully so far Nema Fakei :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 Cossacks is where I got it from, too. I was reccommended it by a friend. I got it, and it turned out to be quite, quite, bad, compared to most games I know. The history isn't even that accurate - The bows were terrible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrex Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 By the way, what is everyones definition of "Rushing"? (Do I rush if I attack with 5 las tanks very early or..?)I think it's mostly the weak atreides ::) that are against rushes since they can't defend well with their crappy slow units. ;DHouse Ordos will prevail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quoudam72 Posted December 20, 2001 Share Posted December 20, 2001 IMO I just look at rushes as a tactic that some people employ in their warfare. It makes me no nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Within_Blue Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 Is there any othr choices other than rushing or waiting? Or is it just a straight for division of the two?About the 'crappy' atreides, they are good and to stop the rushing you just need to bnlock the entances up with kinjal and mongooses. They may be slow but the can still kick butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemafakei Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 Wit a rush, you select one level of unit (infantry, light/heavy vehicle, superweapon (usually in other games), etc) and aim to get a small army of them as soon as possible with the intention of catching the enemy without similar means or adequate approppriate defences against you chosen unit group. Rushes start from the first second of the game, and only then.Sometimes, infantry and simple vehicles can combine to make a rush. It's far more rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted December 21, 2001 Share Posted December 21, 2001 i use that, but its more in waves eg, stun enemy with fast hitandrun, pummle with large weapons, finish up with infantry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 i rush................*picks up nearest textbook to block incoming pencials and paper * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbaronatreides Posted December 24, 2001 Share Posted December 24, 2001 hey no shame in that...we all try to win, right?We all have our tactics, as long as no cheating is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted December 24, 2001 Share Posted December 24, 2001 *bends down puts on helmet..then says,,,,,i didnt REALLI cheat* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrex Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 Evilbaronatreides, some things are worse then ch33ting.Taking over someones base with a stealthy Atreides APC is just cruel! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 umm..but u need to cheat for that to wrk everytime.and realli guys i dont cheat lol ;D 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crockerjarmon Posted December 29, 2001 Share Posted December 29, 2001 Keep in mind there are no rules of engagement on Dune. Any tactic is valid in the game. Well I am not a rusher and I find no reason to hate rushing. Rushing is a similar tactic used by many armies in alot of real wars. Russian soldiers were famous for their all-out mass rush during world war 2. North Vietnamese did the same to the US. So why not let rushing also be part of the tactic used in the game? Let's not limit the ways we play any game out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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