Dune Cheats

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Start with lots of spice

The following archive includes Dune saved games with over 393 tons of spice in stock, which should be more than enough to pay the emperor and buy weapons and other goodies from smugglers without the need to have troops dedicated to spice extraction. The save games were made early in game (at a point where you normally have only a few kilograms of spice).

Get it there: Dune savegames.7z (more info)

http://44554762.linkbucks.com

Hexadecimal cheats

With an hexadecimal editor, you can quite easily edit some characteristics of your troops:

Motivation: convert the current motivation to hexadecimal. For instance, a 100% motivation would be saved as 64 in the save file.

Number of fremens in a troop: divide the troop size by 10, then convert to hexadecimal. For instance, a troop will 2540 men would be saved as FE in the save file.

Equipment: see the sub-section below

So, with your hexadecimal editor, open the saved game you want to edit (make sure you save a backup first!): DUNE37S1.SAV or DUNE37S2.SAV (37 is the number corresponding to the game version, it may be different for your version). Search for the values you want to edit, knowing that troops information are located approximately in the last third of the save file, and that the structure for a troop is like:

...X[motivation]XXX[equipment][population]X...(Each X represents a byte, motivation is 4 offsets before equipment, which is right before population).

[edit] Equipment cheat

The [equipment] value is a bitflag (here listed as decimal values [hexadecimal value]) where:

1 [1] = not assigned

2 [2] = bulb

4 [4] = atomic weapon

8 [8] = weirding modules

16 [10] = laser guns

32 [20] = krys knives

64 [40] = ornithopter

128 [80] = spice harvester

So, to give all equipment to a troop, set this value to 254 [fe]. This cheat generates a minor bug: the equipment is registered as troop equipment, but not as sietch equipment. This means that if you unequip the equipment you added, it will vanish. The solution to this bug is to move your troop to another sietch, which will register the equipment for the sietch.

I think you can even edit the harkonnen troops to make the game more difficult.

I have edited the file. Leto is now willing to follow you lol

Source: http://ecd4f37f.linkbucks.com

[Nyerguds]

Stop using these retarded money making links, man.

http://rs471.rapidshare.com/files/265408288/Dune_savegames.7z

http://www.wiki4games.com/index.php?title=Dune

[Neil]

Does anyone have a detailed guide on editing save games? I'd like to edit a Day 1 save game in order to make a more difficult scenario. More and stronger Harkonnens etc.

[John2022]

Hi all!

Yes Neil, here is one. One and a half years later.

Here is my tuto to hex editing savegame file. Thanks to apologize my spells. English is not my natural tongue.

HEXA CHEATS

I've based my work on this wiki page found on www.wiki4game.com.

Lots of useful infos & tips were found there:

www.wiki4games.com/Dune#Hexadecimal_cheats

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Preliminary notes:

Repeat-byte [0xF7xxxx]. It's used to convert 3 minimum consequential and identical bytes.

The game never use triple identical bytes (or more) as a result. Instead the soft use [0xF7] repeat byte. I've seen [0xF702XX] very rarely, a the beginning of the savegame file. Don't know if it's a repeat-byte...

Ex: [0xF704C0] in the file means [0xC0C0C0C0] => (F7Repeat)(4Time)(ByteC4)

[0xF764FF] ------------------>[0xFF.......98times.....FF]

It's used in the file's frame many times. You 'll have to transcribe all the redundancies of 3+ bytes at the end of your changes before applying them and saving your work for better compatibility, but it's not required most of the time (for little editing). The method is really simple. For few bytes, like [x00000000000000000000], (00 X 10) bytes, you've to write "F70A00" instead of such expression. If you experience too more bytes that can't be counted manually, I advise you to copy/paste the sentence in Notepad++ or an HexEditor to do it for you (look in the status bar).

Take care not to interpret a Repeat-F7 byte like a false-negative: [0x....8F720095...] => ...[0x8F]&[0x72]&[0x00]&[0x95]... There's no [0xF7] here.

There's little exception[0xF701F7] means [0xF7] to avoid the deflating byte to be proceeded. And the [0xF70200] that haven't to be converted.

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SIETCHES CHEATS

Here is the Sietches structures in the savegame file (Cf.Attachments :DUNECD_Savefiles_Sietches.zip) that I posted.

Sietches structure starts at offset d6038 and ends at offset d7701. The last bytes of the structure and the last sietch ends at offset d7727.

This structures is [0xF7]deflating bytes free (Cf. upper). I've converted them into what it's represent. The only exception is the double "=" that I use in order to replace the [0xF701F7] to keep consistent layout.

				Addr.(dec)	A	B (6 bytes)	C	D 	E	F (5 bytes)	G	H	I	J				K (7 bytes)					L
Carthag (Atreides)		d6038		0201	1519FCFFEB5C	20	00	10	FF00000000	01	06	00	00		00	01	00	00	00	00	00		00
Arrakeen (Harkonnen)		d6062		0102	CF3AC2FF1111	30	43	00	FF00000000	23	10	00	00		00	00	01	01	01	00	00		00
Arrakeen-Tabr (Fort)		d6088		0103	FE2ACAFFAA18	28	29	80	FF00000000	31	11	78	00		02	02	03	03	03	03	00		00
Arrakeen-Timin (Fort)		d6114		0104	383ED0FF441F	2B	1E	80	FF00000000	33	11	64	00		02	03	03	03	03	03	00		00
Arrakeen-Tuek (Fort)		d6139		0105	9627BDFFE00C	29	35	80	FF00000000	34	0E	7D	00		01	02	00	01	01	01	00		00
Arrakeen-Harg (Fort)		d6166		0106	371BE0FF4D33	2D	24	80	FF00000000	10	1B	C8	00		02	02	00	03	01	01	00		00
Arrakeen-Clam (Fort)		d6556		0107	D026D5FF1325	2C	21	80	FF00000000	13	12	B4	00		02	03	03	03	02	00	00		00
Arrakeen-Tsymyn(Fort)		d6583		0108	0A33D9FF252A	2E	1B	80	FF00000000	22	0E	2D	00		02	02	03	03	03	00	00		00
Arrakeen-Siet (Fort)		d6610		0109	8916CFFF==1D	2A	27	80	FF00000000	14	13	8C	00		02	02	00	02	02	00	00		00
Arrakeen-Pyons (Village)	d6639		010A	6C3CD8FFEA28	21	00	80	5000000000	1C	03	00	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Carthag-Tabr			d6659		0203	7031EBFF1F43	02	08	80	0400000000	2B	1A	78	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Carthag-Timin			d6680		0204	4E25FCFFFE5C	01	03	40	0000000000	03	13	3C	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Carthag-Tuek			d6701		0205	55260A00BB72	00	01	40	0000000000	04	1C	54	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Carthag-Harg			d6723		0206	0221EDFFFF45	03	02	40	0000000000	02	21	2D	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Carthag-Clam			d6745		0207	5D1106006B6C	00	00	80	3C00000000	08	14	8C	00		01	01	00	00	00	00	00		0A
Tuono-Tabr			d6770		0303	12330800B96F	08	05	E0	0200000000	24	2D	63	00		01	00	00	00	00	00	00		14
Tuono-Timin			d6794		0304	9A3D1600F684	07	00	80	1100000000	2A	20	A0	00		01	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Tuono-Tuek			d6817		0305	2F4DFCFF3C5D	04	09	80	0400000000	26	2A	B4	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Tuono-Harg			d6838		0306	553DEFFF2849	03	00	80	0C00000000	21	26	A0	00		02	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Tuono-Clam			d6861		0307	76460800D76F	06	00	80	1000000000	32	13	D2	00		01	02	03	00	00	00	00		00
Tuono-Pyons (Village)		d6886		030A	7E500F00A07A	21	00	80	3800000000	1D	06	00	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Habbanya-Tabr			d6906		0403	C731300032A7	05	07	80	1400000000	2D	32	C8	00		01	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Habbanya-Timin			d6929		0404	472C1800C687	04	04	80	1400000000	05	14	AA	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Habbanya-Tuek			d6950		0405	B13123001E97	07	06	80	1400000000	19	3F	F0	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Habbanya-Clam			d6997		0407	A1161B00F68B	03	00	80	1600000000	06	2C	C8	00		01	03	00	01	00	00	00		00
Habbanya-Harg			d6971		0406	D10F460075BB	09	0A	A0	4800000000	16	8A	F0	00		01	00	00	00	00	00	00		C8
Oxtyn-Tabr			d7021		0503	==DE17005687	05	00	80	4400000000	3B	46	B4	00		02	01	01	00	00	00	00		00
Oxtyn-Timin			d7048		0504	52==1E006491	02	0B	80	4800000000	0F	35	A0	00		01	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Oxtyn-Tuek			d7073		0505	A8E60A00E373	05	0C	80	4800000000	17	2D	64	00		00	01	01	00	00	00	00		00
Oxtyn-Harg			d7098		0506	A0020D001E77	07	00	80	2800000000	09	17	FA	00		01	01	05	00	00	00	00		00
Oxtyn-Pyons (Village)		d7123		050A	C1101200C57E	21	00	80	3800000000	07	05	00	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Tsympo-Tabr (Fort)		d7143		0603	F307D8FFA828	28	2C	80	FF00000000	12	27	96	00		02	03	00	03	00	00	00		00
Tsympo-Timin (Fort)		d7169		0604	F0F0DDFF5C30	29	2F	80	FF00000000	11	3C	20	00		01	00	03	03	00	00	00		00
Tsympo-Tuek			d7195		0605	C506EBFFE042	01	00	80	5000000000	0B	22	82	00		01	00	01	00	00	00	00		00
Tsympo-Harg			d7220		0606	27E2F0FFA34B	00	0D	80	5000000000	3E	2F	78	00		00	00	01	00	00	00	00		00
Tsympo-Clam (Fort)		d7245		0607	29F9CAFF7D19	2A	32	80	FF00000000	18	22	B4	00		02	02	02	02	02	00	00		00
Tsympo-Tsymyn			d7270		0608	84F6EBFF4244	06	00	80	3C00000000	0C	26	B4	00		01	01	00	02	01	00	00		00
Tsympo-Siet (Fort)		d7297		0609	4618C4FFBE12	2B	34	80	FF00000000	1A	0F	D2	00		02	02	01	01	01	00	00		00
Tsympo-Pyons (Village)		d7324		060A	FAF0F5FF5F53	21	00	80	4700000000	0D	03	00	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Tsympo-Pyort (Fort)		d7344		060B	CC0CB7FF9208	2C	36	80	FF00000000	15	13	78	00		00	00	01	01	01	00	00		00
Bledan-Tabr (Fort)		d7371		0703	00E0C1FFBD10	2D	37	80	FF00000000	47	18	FA	00		00	00	02	02	00	00	00		00
Bledan-Timin (Fort)		d7397		0704	E3D8D0FFF21F	2E	39	80	FF00000000	37	12	B4	00		00	00	01	01	00	00	00		00
Bledan-Tuek (Fort)		d7433		0705	4FADC3FF5912	2F	3B	80	FF00000000	46	20	78	00		00	00	01	01	00	00	00		00
Bledan-Harg (Fort)		d7449		0706	6CC5C5FF4A14	28	3A	80	FF00000000	3C	15	C8	00		00	00	01	01	00	00	00		00
Ergsun-Tabr			d7475		0803	61B8DCFFBA2E	07	11	A0	2C00000000	4A	14	96	00		01	01	00	00	00	00	00		50
Ergsun-Timin			d7500		0804	7FC4E8FF8E3F	04	0F	80	2800000000	38	35	6E	00		00	00	01	00	00	00	00		00
Ergsun-Tuek			d7525		0805	7496DEFF3B31	05	10	80	2C00000000	41	25	3C	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Ergsun-Harg			d7546		0806	C6A7E2FFD236	06	12	80	2C00000000	3A	0E	B4	00		01	00	01	00	00	00	00		00
Ergsun-Clam			d7571		0807	70B1EBFFDC43	01	0E	80	2C00000000	48	30	96	00		00	00	01	00	00	00	00		00
Ergsun-Tsymyn			d7596		0808	F1AAD5FFB325	00	00	80	2C00000000	3F	23	A0	00		00	00	01	00	00	00	00		00
Haga-Tabr			d7621		0903	E26AF1FF744C	0B	13	A0	5A00000000	1B	24	AA	00		00	00	01	00	00	00	00		28
Haga-Timin			d7647		0904	3285F6FF4554	0A	14	A0	5A00000000	20	47	D2	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		0A
Haga-Tuek (Fort)		d7669		0905	0070E1FF2235	29	42	80	FF00000000	29	2C	C3	00		01	01	00	01	01	00	00		00
Haga-Harg (Fort)		d7696		0906	185CDAFFA22B	2A	3F	80	FF00000000	27	2D	F0	00		02	02	02	02	02	00	00		00
Haga-Clam (Fort)		d7721		0907	E368D0FF741F	2B	3E	80	FF00000000	2C	1C	C8	00		01	01	00	01	01	01	00		00
Haga-Tsymyn (Fort)		d7748		0908	1467C3FF1B12	2C	3D	80	FF00000000	1F	33	D2	00		02	01	01	01	01	01	00		00
Haga-Siet (Fort)		d7772		0909	BE7CC5FF0714	2D	3C	80	FF00000000	36	23	32	00		01	00	00	01	00	00	00		00
Haga-Pyons (Village)		d7798		090A	0383DDFFCA2F	21	00	80	5A00000000	1E	08	00	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Cielago-Tabr			d7819		0A03	B5750500796B	03	00	80	5A00000000	2F	67	E6	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Cielago-Timin			d7840		0A04	95940200FF66	0D	00	A0	5A00000000	28	35	C8	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		A0
Sihaya-Tabr			d7862		0B03	4C9118005888	08	17	A0	5800000000	3D	5E	AA	00		00	00	01	00	00	00	00		64
Sihaya-Timin			d7888		0B04	F3BC2F00ADA6	0A	19	A0	5800000000	39	2D	C8	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		C8
Sihaya-Tuek			d7910		0B05	DFC71600C085	10	00	A0	5500000000	40	5A	8C	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		6E
Sihaya-Harg			d7932		0B06	A2BB1F007292	0B	18	A0	5800000000	49	36	AA	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		69
Sihaya-Clam			d7954		0B07	DECEF9FF5A59	03	00	A0	2800000000	45	31	8C	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		78
Sihaya-Pyons (Village)		d7976		0B0A	F0B2F5FF0053	21	00	80	5800000000	44	07	00	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		00
Celimyn-Tabr			d7628		0C03	B65D2400AB98	0E	15	A0	5A00000000	4C	1C	AA	00		00	00	01	00	00	00	00		64
Celimyn-Timin			d7654		0C04	9371310098A8	0F	16	A0	5800000000	25	5B	F0	00		00	00	00	00	00	00	00		C8
Celimyn-Tuek			d7676		0C05	F6412700689C	03	00	80	FF00000000	35	26	8C	00		01	01	03	00	00	00	00		00
Celimyn-Harg			d7701		0C06	00C047009DBC	0C	1A	A0	FF00000000	43	56	F0	00		00	00	02	01	00	00	00		96
				Addr.(dec)	A	B (6 bytes)	C	D 	E	F (5 bytes)	G	H	I	J				K (7 bytes)					L

Sietch definitions are 28 bytes long, but may have a different length in the file, because of the 'F7-deflating'-system mentioned above.

[Firstname][Lastname]XXXXXX[Appearance][Primary troop ID][Status]XXXXX[Spice field ID]X[Spice density]X[Harvesters][Ornithopters][Knives][Guns][Weird.mod][Atomics][Bulbs][Water]

Descriptions of the columns:

A: [Firstname]+[Lastname] (2 bytes)

B: [GPS Location] +2 unknown bytes (6 bytes total)

C: [Appearance] (1 byte)

D: [Housed Troop ID] (1 byte)

E: [status] (1 byte)

F: 5 unknown bytes

G: [spice field ID] (1 byte)

H: 1 unknown byte

I: [spice density] (1 byte)

J: 1 unknown byte

K: [Harvesters] & [Ornithopters] & [Knives] & [Guns] & [Weird.mod] & [Atomics] & [bulbs] (1 byte each. 7 bytes total)

L: [Water] (1 byte)

A: [Firstname]+[Lastname]

Byte value	Firstname	Lastname
[0x01]		Arrakeen	(Atreides)
[0x02]		Carthag		(Harkonnen)
[0x03]		Tuono		Tabr
[0x04]		Habbanya	Timin
[0x05]		Oxtyn		Tuek
[0x06]		Tsympo		Harg
[0x07]		Bledan		Clam
[0x08]		Ergsun		Tsymyn
[0x09]		Haga		Siet
[0x0a]		Cielago		Pyons
[0x0b]		Sihaya		Pyort
[0x0c]		Celimyn

Example: in order to change the name of 'Carthag (Atreides)' to 'Celimyn-Pyort', find the sietch beginning with '02 01' and change it to '0c 0b'.

B: [GPS Location]

Don't really know what this mean but it seem to be a localization system. We find the same 4 bytes in the troops bloc which stay in this sietch.

C:[Appearance]

Appearance of sietches interior (HAVE TO BE CONFIRMED).

D: [Housed Troop ID]

Troop which are living/posted in the sietch/fort at the beginning. Refer to the Troop section and *.ods file for more informations.Sietch inventory & troops features v0.1.zip

Some sietch haven't got troop, but, in the Harkonnens forts, there are more than one troop posted there. It's noticed in the structures of the troop section of the savegame file. We can know by this way, which troop come after in the place.

E: [status]

This value is a bitflag (here listed as decimal values [hexadecimal value]) where:

0 [0x00] = visible sietch/village/palace

1 [0x01] = vegetation present (no more spice mining possible)

2 [0x02] = in battle

4 [0x04] = ?

8 [0x08] = ?

16 [0x10] = see the inventory of the sietch

32 [0x20] = wind-trap constructed

64 [0x40] = area of sietch has been prospected

128 [0x80] = sietch has not been discovered

160 [0xA0] = sietch with wind-trap wich has not been discovered

224 [0xE0] = Tuono-Tabr before stillsuit mission --> Hidden + Wind-Trap + Prospected

A sietch wich has been prospected, visited (inventory visible), and wind-trap constructed will have the [statut] byte : [0x10]+[0x20]+[0x40]=[0x70]

The bitflag [0x80/0x40/0x10] are pretty useful ;)

Maybe can we refill spice area by changing the [0x01] and the I column?

G: [spice field ID]

Not studied...

Are present, bytes between 0[0x00] & 76[0x4C]; except [0x0A],[0x0E],[0x2E],[0x30],[0x42]&[0x4B]. Same trip as multi primary troop?

I: [spice density]

Spice density in the relevant area. A picture will be more expressive.

Values between 0[0x00] et 250[0xFA] in gamefile. 0[0x00] for villages & palaces: zipped by the repeat-byte [0xF7], the unknown byte and inventory's ones.

K: Inventory

Pretty simple here. Just convert in hexadecimal the desired amounts of stuff you want to get in the concerned sietch and replace associated bytes in the siecth bloc.

Ex: Tuono-Tuek

Adress d6817:

[0x03052F4DFCFF3C5D0409800400000000262AB4000F00000000190000]

I add 15 Harvesters & 25 Atomics weapons.

L: [Water]

Water supply amount (w/wo wind-trap).

It's time now for a little practice:

I write this completly from nothing. No idea what it could turn.

Admitting we want to make an invisible sietch to be visible to the map.

Ergsun-Timin for exemple. Based on its name, we found in the table that its [Firstname]+[Lastname] is coded 0804. So, open your savegame in your hex editor and find all occurrences of the short byte[0x0804].

In the earlier savegame file, there's only one offset. We are lucky. So find now the second sietch in the list ([0x0805]) -in other words, the stop position- and copy all the bytes of Ergsun-Timin sietch in a text editor like this:

[0x08047FC4E8FF8E3F040F8028F7040038356EF7030001F70500]

Look for the deflating byte. To avoid the false [0xF7], your could spaced all binomial. Counting seriously will make the deal. Transform the deflating byte to real form. If it was well done, you 'll have 28 bytes to study and to modify. If not, try to see if there's no [0xF701F7] (See Preliminary notes).

In my savefile I had this:

[0x08047FC4E8FF8E3F040F80280000000038356E000000010000000000]

Now find the [status] byte at position number 11. There's a [0x80]. The table tells that 'sietch has not been discovered'. Let's modify this . Enter [0x10] (visited) or [0x40] (prospectead). No need to add deflating byte. Copy/paste your modif in your savegame at the good place and save your file (need a "special paste" in HexWorkshop. In overwrite mode if you copy and insert mode if you cut your bytes). Go to the game and load it. Ergsun-Timin is now reachable by orni.

If you want to refill or upgrade the spice density of the area to harvest more spice. Edit the byte number 19. And write [0xFF]. Want water? Edit the last byte etc.

Inventory is a not really complicated. Convert the desired amount of stuff you want in hexa and fill the byte position shown in reference table. You can add weapon to harkonnen Fort, but you'll had to edit the troop structure to be usable by them ( -- HAVE TO BE CONFIRMED).

If you find more result in the search of the sietch's heading, you can use more byte of my table. Generally, 8 bytes will take you to success; Or you can find another sietch and count bytes if you are experienced.

SPICE CHEAT - Temporary little credit or Cresus wealth

In the savefile submitted, spice's amount is located on the offset d5595. 8 bytes before Harkonnens amount. For your savegame ,click on DUNE MAP ingame & look the Arrakis globe and click on SEE RESULT. Watch the Harkonnens spice production. Divide by 10 the value and convert this decimal value in hexa short byte (Intel order). And find it in your savegame file.In my file, it's located offset d5995.

The Atreides amount is located 8 bytes before this offset. Considering the deflating byte [0xF7], you can find it's good location. Spice structure in my savegame file is as shown: [0xF780008601]. The solution is to split the deflating bytes into 2 deflating blocs surrounding the modified converted Atreides spice amount .

Exemple: I want add 10000Kg to my empty starting stock. d1000 = hE803. After translation this gives me [0xF77800E803F706008601]

F77800 = [0x78] that to say 120 bytes zeros filled

E803 = Atreides spice amount (10x1000 Kg, [h03E8])

F70600 = [0x06] that to say 6 bytes zeros filled

8601 = Harkonnens spice amount (10x390 Kg, [h0186])

120 bytes zeros filled + 2 bytes Atreides spice amount + 6 bytes zeros filled = 128 bytes that to say h80 of the original deflating bloc [0xF78000].

I don't know if it changes the game's progress to make Harkonnen richer...

CONTACT DISTANCE CHEAT

From a certain point in the game you can contact your troops from a distance. The initial range of contact distance is set to 0x01, which means that you can only contact the troops in the sietch you are at that moment. You can change this by altering a byte near the end of the savegame, so you don't need to travel as much to give orders.

The byte responsible is a bit tricky to find, but in the initial savegame it's at byte 9601(0x2581)9600(0x2580) and it's before 2 bytes which always seem to be '00 FF'. So if you want to change this before waiting in the desert for the message of the first spice shipment you'll be looking for [0x0100FF]. A contact distance of [0xD0] already covers the entire planet, but a value of [0xFF] may be set.

For me, I simply find [0x0100FF] at offset d9600. [0x0100FF] was present only one time in my starting savegame file.

TROOP CHEATS

Troop structure begin at the end of sietch structure. Each troop begin by Troop ID are 27 bytes long (decompacted).

Here is the listing of the early troop structure deflating byte [0xF7] free.

TroopID   Sietch of origin	A	B	C	D	E	F		G			H	I	J	K	L	M	N	O	P
Troop 01: Carthag-Tuek		01	00	01	80	5002	55260A00	0000000000000000	42	00	00	1C	0A	0A	00	00	BE
Troop 02: Carthag-Harg		02	00	01	80	6C02	0221EDFF	0000000000000000	02	00	00	1A	14	3C	00	00	D0
Troop 03: Carthag-Timin		03	00	01	80	3402	4E25FCFF	0000000000000000	02	00	00	10	0E	00	00	00	28
Troop 04: Habbanya-Timin	04	00	01	80	6803	472C1800	0000000000000000	84	00	00	28	0C	0A	16	00	F3
Troop 05: Tuono-Tabr		05	00	01	80	A402	12330800	0000000000000000	03	00	00	1E	0E	0A	1A	00	AE
Troop 06: Habbanya-Tuek		06	00	01	80	8403	B1312300	0000000000000000	84	00	00	1A	14	0A	1E	00	96
Troop 07: Habbanya-Tabr		07	00	01	80	4C03	C7313000	0000000000000000	84	00	00	16	00	0A	14	00	C9
Troop 08: Carthag-Tabr		08	00	01	80	1802	7031EBFF	0000000000000000	02	00	00	1F	0B	16	18	00	88
Troop 09: Tuono-Tuek		09	00	01	80	DC02	2F4DFCFF	0000000000000000	03	00	00	19	04	0B	1A	00	EB
Troop 0A: Habbanya-Clam		0A	00	01	80	BC03	D10F4600	0000000000000000	84	00	00	17	0C	11	11	00	FC
Troop 0B: Oxtyn-Timin		0B	00	01	80	F403	52==1E00	0000000000000000	85	00	00	13	0C	1F	08	00	F1
Troop 0C: Oxtyn-Tuek		0C	00	01	80	1004	A8E60A00	0000000000000000	85	00	00	0C	05	01	1D	00	86
Troop 0D: Tsympo-Harg		0D	00	01	80	B804	27E2F0FF	0000000000000000	46	00	00	17	16	0B	16	00	D5
Troop 0E: Ergsun-Clam		0E	00	01	80	4006	70B1EBFF	0000000000000000	48	00	00	15	0C	1D	16	00	60
Troop 0F: Ergsun-Timin		0F	00	01	80	EC05	7FC4E8FF	0000000000000000	48	00	00	14	1C	0B	03	00	EB
Troop 10: Ergsun-Tuek		10	00	01	80	0806	7496DEFF	0000000000000000	08	00	00	1F	0B	1C	06	00	7B
Troop 11: Ergsun-Tabr		11	00	01	80	D005	61B8DCFF	0000000000000000	08	00	00	27	09	1F	00	00	6B
Troop 12: Ergsun-Harg		12	00	01	80	2406	C6A7E2FF	0000000000000000	08	00	00	11	13	0A	12	00	D6
Troop 13: Haga-Tabr		13	00	01	80	7806	E26AF1FF	0000000000000000	49	00	00	17	0C	1D	03	00	ED
Troop 14: Haga-Timin		14	00	01	80	9406	3285F6FF	0000000000000000	49	00	00	16	0D	01	16	00	42
Troop 15: Celimyn-Tabr		15	00	01	80	3808	B65D2400	0000000000000000	8C	00	00	06	0A	0B	19	00	AC
Troop 16: Celimyn-Timin		16	00	01	80	5408	93713100	0000000000000000	8C	00	00	0F	01	16	06	00	EC
Troop 17: Sihaya-Tabr		17	00	01	80	9007	4C911800	0000000000000000	8B	00	00	15	01	13	1E	00	4C
Troop 18: Sihaya-Harg		18	00	01	80	E407	A2BB1F00	0000000000000000	8B	00	00	08	08	0A	13	00	9B
Troop 19: Sihaya-Timin		19	00	01	80	AC07	F3BC2F00	0000000000000000	8B	00	00	10	15	06	1F	00	DE
Troop 1A: Celimyn-Harg		1A	00	01	80	8C08	00C04700	0000000000000000	8C	00	00	1F	0D	04	0D	00	94
Troop 1B: Arrakeen-Tsymyn(Fort)	1B	1C	09	8C	C401	0A33D9FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	50	1E	50	06	38	B4
Troop 1C: 			1C	1D	0A	8C	C401	0A33D9FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	50	1E	50	17	38	B4
Troop 1D: 			1D	00	0B	8C	C401	0A33D9FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	50	1E	50	0B	38	B4
Troop 1E: Arrakeen-Timin (Fort)	1E	1F	09	8C	5401	383ED0FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	46	1E	50	05	3C	B4
Troop 1F: 			1F	20	0A	8C	5401	383ED0FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	46	1E	50	02	38	B4
Troop 20: 			20	00	0B	8C	5401	383ED0FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	46	1E	50	1E	3C	B4
Troop 21: Arrakeen-Clam (Fort)	21	22	09	8C	A801	D026D5FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	50	1E	50	18	38	B4
Troop 22: 			22	23	0A	8C	A801	D026D5FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	3C	1E	50	1C	38	B4
Troop 23: 			23	00	0B	8C	A801	D026D5FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	50	1E	50	0F	30	B4
Troop 24: Arrakeen-Harg (Fort)	24	25	09	8C	8C01	371BE0FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	28	1E	50	00	18	B6
Troop 25: 			25	26	0A	8C	8C01	371BE0FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	28	1E	50	02	10	B6
Troop 26: 			26	00	0B	8C	8C01	371BE0FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	28	1E	50	0F	10	B6
Troop 27: Arrakeen-Siet (Fort)	27	28	09	8C	E001	8916CFFF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	3C	1E	50	1E	18	B9
Troop 28: 			28	00	0A	8C	E001	8916CFFF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	32	1E	50	1D	18	BE
Troop 29: Arrakeen-Tabr (Fort)	29	2A	09	8C	3801	FE2ACAFF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	46	1E	50	0A	3C	BE
Troop 2A: 			2A	2B	0A	8C	3801	FE2ACAFF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	46	1E	50	03	38	BE
Troop 2B: 			2B	00	0B	8C	3801	FE2ACAFF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	46	1E	50	1B	3C	BE
Troop 2C: Tsympo-Tabr (Fort)	2C	2D	09	8C	6404	F307D8FF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	50	1E	50	1B	10	B9
Troop 2D: 			2D	2E	0A	8C	6404	F307D8FF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	50	1E	50	13	10	B9
Troop 2E: 			2E	00	0B	8C	6404	F307D8FF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	50	1E	50	18	10	B9
Troop 2F: Tsympo-Timin (Fort)	2F	30	09	8C	8004	F0F0DDFF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	0A	1E	46	12	30	BC
Troop 30: 			30	31	0A	8C	8004	F0F0DDFF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	11	1E	45	0F	10	BC
Troop 31: 			31	00	0B	8C	8004	F0F0DDFF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	14	1E	41	1F	10	BC
Troop 32: Tsympo-Clam (Fort)	32	33	09	8C	D404	29F9CAFF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	19	1E	30	07	18	BC
Troop 33: 			33	00	0A	8C	D404	29F9CAFF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	19	1E	3A	16	18	BC
Troop 34: Tsympo-Siet (Fort)	34	00	09	8C	0C05	4618C4FF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	46	1E	50	04	38	B9
Troop 35: Arrakeen-Tuek (Fort)	35	00	09	8C	7001	9627BDFF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	5A	1E	5A	09	1C	B4
Troop 36: Tsympo-Pyort (Fort)	36	00	09	8C	4405	CC0CB7FF	0000000000009000	06	00	00	28	1E	50	0D	18	B4
Troop 37: Bledan-Tabr (Fort)	37	38	09	8C	6005	00E0C1FF	0000000000009000	07	00	00	0C	1E	22	02	30	B4
Troop 38: 			38	00	0A	8C	6005	00E0C1FF	0000000000009000	07	00	00	0C	1E	22	17	30	B4
Troop 39: Bledan-Timin (Fort)	39	00	09	8C	7C05	E3D8D0FF	0000000000009000	07	00	00	0A	1E	22	00	30	B4
Troop 3A: Bledan-Harg (Fort)	3A	00	09	8C	B405	6CC5C5FF	0000000000009000	07	00	00	0A	1E	10	1F	30	B4
Troop 3B: Bledan-Tuek (Fort)	3B	00	09	8C	9805	4FADC3FF	0000000000009000	07	00	00	0A	1E	0A	10	30	B4
Troop 3C: Haga-Siet (Fort)	3C	00	09	8C	2007	BE7CC5FF	0000000000009000	09	00	00	50	1E	50	0F	10	B4
Troop 3D: Haga-Tsymyn (Fort)	3D	00	09	8C	0407	1467C3FF	0000000000009000	09	00	00	63	1E	50	15	3C	B4
Troop 3E: Haga-Clam (Fort)	3E	00	09	8C	E806	E368D0FF	0000000000009000	09	00	00	3C	1E	50	16	18	B4
Troop 3F: Haga-Harg (Fort)	3F	40	09	8C	CC06	185CDAFF	0000000000009000	09	00	00	46	1E	50	10	38	B4
Troop 40: 			40	41	0A	8C	CC06	185CDAFF	0000000000009000	09	00	00	46	1E	50	1E	08	B4
Troop 41: 			41	00	0B	8C	CC06	185CDAFF	0000000000009000	09	00	00	46	1E	50	16	30	B4
Troop 42: Haga-Tuek (Fort)	42	00	09	8C	B006	0070E1FF	0000000000009000	09	00	00	32	1E	50	14	18	B4
Troop 43: Arrakeen (Harkonnen)	43	00	09	8C	1C01	CF3AC2FF	0000000000009000	01	00	00	08	1E	5F	14	38	0A
TroopID   Sietch of origin	A	B	C	D	E	F		G			H	I	J	K	L	M	N	O	P

Descriptions of the columns:

A: [Troop ID]

B: [Next Troop ID]

C: [Position]

D: [Job]

E: 2 unknown bytes - Same for each Troop wich stay in same sietches

F: [GPS location]

G: 8 unknown bytes - related to troop activities

H: [Dissatisfaction] - For some bytes, troop refuse to work ([0xFF] by exemple).

I: [speech]

J: [Miss you MSG] - can't find absence period

K: [Motivation]

L: [spice skill]

M: [Army skill]

N: [Ecology skill]

O: [Equipment]

P: [Population]

A: [Troop ID]

Troop ID [0x01] is the troop you first meet together with Gurney Hallek in Carthag-Tuek.

Troop ID [0x03] is the spice prospector troop.

B: [Next Troop ID]

Refers to the next troopid in this sietch. [0x00] means that it's the last troop in this sietch.

C: [Position]

Troop's position on the map around the sietch.

[0x01] = South of the siecth

[0x02] = South East of the siecth

[0x03] = South West of the siecth

[0x04] = East of the siecth

[0x05] = West of the siecth

[0x06] = North East of the siecth

[0x07] = North West of the siecth

[0x08] = North of the siecth

[0x00] & [0x09]->[0xFF] = Various positions on top of the sietch

D: [Job]

[0x00] = Spice mining

[0x01] = Spice prospecting

[0x02] = Waiting orders

[0x03] = Spice miners going to search equipment

[0x04] = Military training

[0x05] = Espionage

[0x06] = Attacking

[0x07] = Militaries going to search equipment

[0x08] = Irrigation & Tree care

[0x09] = Wind-trap assembly

[0x0A] = Bulb growing

[0x0B] = Ecologists going to search equipment

[0x0C] = Blue harkonnen spice mining

[0x0D] = Blue harkonnen prospecting

[0x0E] = Blue harkonnen waiting orders

[0x0F] = Blue harkonnen spice miners going to search equipment

[0x10]->[0x1F] = Upper jobs finished

[0x1F] = Blue harkonnen militaries going to search equipment (CD: 150K/sec in text ^^)

[0x20] = Spice mining - No more orders to give

[0x21] = Troop prospecting captured - No more orders to give

[0x22] = Troop apologize for been captured

[0x23] = Spice miners going to search a spice harvester - No more orders to give

... nearly like [0x00]->[0x0F] upper list jobs

[0x40]->[0x7F] = Moving to another place

[0x80]->[0x9F] = Not yet hired

[0xA0]->[0xFF] = Complain about slaving by harkonnen

F: [GPS location]

Refer to an unknown localization system of the sietch occupied currently. (See. SIETCH - B: [GPS Location])

I: [speech]

[0x01] = ?

[0x02] = Gives the message that a small troop has merged with this troop

[0x04] = Troop is ill

[0x08] = ?

[0x10] = Gives the message that a fortress has been transformed into a sietch

[0x20] = Spice skill showing in troop characteristics

[0x40] = Army skill showing in troop characteristics

[0x80] = Ecology skill showing in troop characteristics

K: [Motivation]

100% motivation would be saved as [0x64] in the save file. [0x64]->[0xFF] always display 100% score motivation.

L & M & N: [spice skill] & [Army skill] & [Ecology skill]

Skills range from [0x00] to [0x5F], where [0x5F] is expert

O: [Equipment]

The [equipment] value is a bitflag (here listed as decimal values [hexadecimal value]) where:

The equipment value is a bitflag (here listed as decimal values [0Xhexadecimal value]) where:

1 [0x01] = not assigned

2 [0x02] = bulb

4 [0x04] = atomic weapon

8 [0x08] = weirding modules

16 [0x10] = laser guns

32 [0x20] = krys knives

64 [0x40] = ornithopter

128 [0x80] = spice harvester

So, to give all equipment to a troop, set this value to 254 [0xFE]: 2+4+8+16+32+64+128 = 254.

This cheat generates a minor bug: the equipment is registered as troop equipment, but not as sietch equipment. This means that if you unequip the equipment you added, it will vanish. The solution to this bug is to move your troop to another sietch, which will register the equipment for the sietch.

P: [Population]

Divide the troop size by 10, then convert to hexadecimal. For 2550 fremen in the troop, write [0xFF] in the savegame file at this offset.

[John2022]

This post was really painfull

If you have question, I'll be glad to answer you.

I don't break all the secret of these blocs, I planned to attach a mega-cheated savegame file, but, it'll break the interest of the game.

So, if you want a Cresus, all sietch visible, max pop & max motivation, full of stuff troop & sietch and big dstance communication, just tell me, I 'll do it for you.

I don't look for Charisma, but it'll not be very difficult I tink.

I'm open to your suggestion or idea to enlarge this article.

Cheers

John2022

[rossocorsa]

This post was really painfull

If you have question, I'll be glad to answer you.

I don't break all the secret of these blocs, I planned to attach a mega-cheated savegame file, but, it'll break the interest of the game.

So, if you want a Cresus, all sietch visible, max pop & max motivation, full of stuff troop & sietch and big dstance communication, just tell me, I 'll do it for you.

I don't look for Charisma, but it'll not be very difficult I tink.

I'm open to your suggestion or idea to enlarge this article.

Cheers

John2022

Hi,

I would really appreciate a save game with max population, max motivation, each sietch full inventory, and large distance communication with also large amount of spice.

Thanks,

Ben

[StephanFourie]

Hi Guys.

This was one of my favourite games ever back in the days.

I enjoyed this game so much that I just had to create my own Savegame editor.

Unfortunately I only saw this thread a few weeks ago otherwise I would have done this a long time ago.

In the Editor you can Edit the Amount of Spice you have, Charisma, Contact distance, Troops with equipment and the Sietches with their equipment.

Excuse my english as it is not my mother tongue.

Anyone interested in the Editor? I will be happy to share.

Cheers!

[MrFlibble]

Nice! Can you upload it somewhere permanently and post a link here? Otherwise (if it ain't a large file) you can just attach it to your post (note that forum software rejects RAR and 7zip archives for some reason).

[StephanFourie]

Sorry for the late reply. I did not get an email notification.

I have attached the doc file with the exe file embedded and I hope it works.

You might need to install dotNetFramework4.

For the ones that does not trust this and have visual studio, I will share the source code.

Enjoy.Dune.doc

[Nyerguds]

I'm not sure if it's working correctly... I get loads of "troop 00" occurrences, and the sietches list shows odd name combinations too, with values like 255 laser guns and 128 krys knifes. I wonder, are there different versions (with different savegames) of Dune 1?

Anyway, I'm a programmer, and I'd love to take a look at the code. What programming language is it?

[ailmanki]

There are different versions of the savegame.

I tested this with the CD-version and the lists looked correctly.

I made this page to collect all the info I could find, its on google pages - in the hope that spot will never vanish..

http://sites.google.com/site/duneeditor/savegame-editing

Will have to add this excellent editor!

It would be nice if would share the source code, I think there is still more to discover in the savegame, for example the ecology. As it seems the savegame 0 - is the data for starting the game, maybe it would be possible to create a different scenario for Dune. raising the difficulty, without changing the actual game code.

If you want to keep the savegame of older positions in Dune it's sufficient that you copy the .sav files in the game main directory to other locations, then restore them when you want to replay without restarting Dune.

The .sav files are:

dune23s0.sav (-> dune37s0.sav in the CD-version): it represents the option "Restart game";

dune23s1.sav (-> dune37s1.sav in the CD-version): it represents the first save slot;

dune23s2.sav (-> dune37s2.sav in the CD-version): it represents the second save slot;

dune23s3.sav (-> dune37s3.sav in the CD-version): it represents the option "Last place you have visited";

dune23s4.sav (-> dune37s4.sav in the CD-version): it represents the option "Last new sietch explored.

Remember to make a backup copy of these files, before you do anything on them! ;)

Rymoah

[sferg]

Hello, I am new here and being playing the classic Dune through DosBox. Used to have it years and years ago on my old 386SX!!!

Anyway, been playing for a while now and had to restart a few times due to not having enough spice and things and then I found the file here to start with loads of spice, only cheat I have used and been playing for ages finding and beating the Harks, planting seed etc, must be about 3 quarters through and that greedy Emp has nearly had all the 300000+kg of spice.

So can someone tell me where to find the spice value entry in the saved file and what value to change it to to have maximum spice again, I don't want to start the game again.

Problem is I do not understand any of this hex editor stuff so I really need someone to take a look at my saved file, maybe do a screen dump which they can email back to me and show me exactly where the spice value is, also what hex editor programme should I search for and download?

Tried the Dune editor programme but it says the file is saved with max spice but when I load the game nothing has changed....

Also my files are the Dune21S1 ones.

Please reply here or email me at sferg.410@ntlworld.com and i will happily send you a copy of my saved game file and you can show me the spice value location.

Thanks a lot

Stewart

[Darian]

TIME ON DUNE

The day is divided in to 16 units. That makes them 90 minutes long. Each

unit takes 60 seconds of real time. That makes a day 16 minutes long. The

minimum time is Day 1 12am. The default time is Day 1 4:30am. The start time is

Day 1 9am. The clock goes to Day 365 10:30pm and then resets. The results go to

Day 999 10:30pm. The maximum time is Day 4096 10:30pm. Wait for morning is

4:30am. Wait for evening is 10:30pm. Travel makes time go by at a faster rate.

The two bytes that contain the Date & Time always follow a set of constant bytes. I checked a save game from way after the last fortress was captured and I was messing around mining all the spice and growing vegetation. Those F7 compression bytes never changed from zero.

v2.1 C3 89 B2 FF FF F7 24 00 xx xx DT DT

v2.3 C4 89 B2 FF FF F7 30 00 xx xx DT DT

v3.7 C9 85 D6 FF FF F7 68 00 xx xx DT DT This same string is also in DUNE38Sx.SAV

The xx xx seems to be a sub hour counter that goes from 0 - FFFF. Set it to zero when you change the DT. I have seen the least significant byte of this value be 00 which of course pops that F7 compression value up by one and moves the DT value over by one.

Here are some DT values and what time they show on the saved game name (Log 1 or Log 2).

FF FD = Day 1 12:00am

FF FE = Day 1 01:30am

FF FF = Day 1 03:00am

00 00 = Day 1 04:30am

00 0D = Day 2 12:00am

16 CC = Day 365 10:30pm

3E 6C = Day 999 10:30pm

FF FC = Day 4096 10:30pm

The two DT bytes are stored reversed (least significant to most significant byte order). If you are calculating a date to set, you need to subtract 19 dec from what you think it sould be. Day 2 12:00am should be 2x16=32. Subtract 19 before writing the value and it will be correct. Day 10 12:00pm would be 10x16+8=168-19=149 or 95hex. You would write this in the file as 95 00 or 00 00 95 00 to set the subhour counter to zero.

[Taterz]

Not understanding this lol. I tried to divide my spice by 10 then used a converter, searched with a hex editor of the save file can't find it. Lol. Any tips on first time hexedit users?

It would be helpful to see a YouTube walkthrough? My hangup is in my hex editor I'm seeing small 2 digit columns.. Not sure exactly what I'm doing wrong. I mean I edited eurotruck simulator 2 using a hex editor but it was a breeze following a walkthrough. Please? Thanks

[Darian]

You are close Taterz. You need to search in LSB-MSB order. The four digit hex number you have must be split in to two pairs of hex numbers and then reversed. As in Duncan reports 73110kg of spice. 7311 to hex is 1C8F. Search for 8F1C. In the unlikely event of more than one 8F1C strings, it will be the one near the end of the save game file. If the sun and moon move between Duncan's report and you saving the game, than spice stocks will be higher than the value you are searching for. The time updates every one minute of real time. And you could ask for the report near the end of a minute. If it doesn't seem to be working just load the saved game, ask Duncan again and the immediately resave the game.

[hugslab]

For anyone super curious, the first byte of column F in John2022's sietch structure is used to determine when a sietch can be discovered. For example, Tuono-Tabr is set to 02, so when the game stage variable is 02 (which it is when Leto orders you to find the stillsuit maker), the sietch becomes discoverable.

The game stage only goes up to C8 (I think), so those locations set to FF are revealed through other events.

[Lord Winner]

If the game stage variable never goes to 0xFF, that explains why nobody can find Celimyn-Tuek by traveling into that area of the desert with an orni or a worm... it's revealed by meeting none of Harah (the first byte should then be 0x14), Chani (should be 48) or even Liet Kynes (should be 58). I guess I'll test that by editing the first byte of the F section early in the game to say 14, next time I play the game

[EDIT: yup, unsurprisingly, if the first byte of the F section of Celimyn-Tuek is set to 0x14, then that sietch can be found by flying over the area, right after meeting Harah.]

Spice refilling is a cool hack, but having to resort to it indicates that something's wrong with the way the player is playing the game. The game can be won without sending more than 10 tons of spice to the Emperor, and without cheating either; the area where the game starts, bounded by the rocky areas at the north and east, down to Habbanya-Tabr in the south, and comprising Habbanya-Clam + Oxtyn-Harg in the west (well, everything you can find with Harah before going to Stilgar's area), contains far more than 10 tons of spice. Even by playing in a somewhat more relaxed way - it's been over two decades since I started consistently beating all of the Harkonnen fortresses by day 30.

I never saw the Sardaukar, I guess I should try it once... assuming they're supported by my old version which creates DUNE21S*.SAV files. IIRC, the only time I failed to send enough spice to the Emperor in a timely manner, Paul Atreides died even when he wasn't in the Atreides palace. That was beyond day 80...

Edited January 6, 2019 by Lord Winner
Added information; fixed typo

[nifelheim85]

Hello to everybody

I have a trouble with both the editors.

Referring to the website https://sites.google.com/site/duneeditor/savegame-editing-v2 , I have everytime crashes after modifying the savegame file

When I use the savegame editor (CD), it modifies the geometry of the palace (I can enter in not-discovered-yet rooms, and after that, I'm not able to enter in the weapon room. If I try to speak with hara, the game crushes)

When I use the savegame AIR editor, the game crushes if I try to join the mail hall of the palace

 

Someone else had this kind of problem, and how did you solve? 

I was thinking that maybe the problem is my version (actually, according to the savegame file, il 3.7).

 

Bye

[Lord Winner]

Another cheat in the time area, which I never saw described anywhere...

 

At least in the version which creates DUNE21S*.SAV files, one can take advantage of the automatic save when entering into a place, and Maps -> Globe -> Load game -> Last entering into a place, to cram a higher number of character dialogs - sequences and/or troop actions per 1h30 time period. The sub-hour counter doesn't seem to be adequately saved or restored.

 

I've been using this cheat occasionally for years; using it intensively has a surprisingly deep impact (read: several days !) on the game's internal time, obviously at the expense of the playing time in the real world. That's how, last week-end, I had:

• Paul Atreides meet Chani, drink the Water of Life in Tuono-Tabr, get back to the Carthag palace and talk with Jessica to get the Fremen contact range boosted, before the end of day 9;
• the Fremen destroy all Harkonnen fortresses (and Paul Atreides enter all of them + recover Chani + rally all 47 troops, reaching less than 78000 Fremen total - some game runs provide more than 81000 Fremen in these 47 troops) at the end of day 16;
• the ability to trigger the final attack from Arrakeen-Tabr on day 17, 4h30, and therefore the ability to enter the Arrakeen (Harkonnen) palace at the same timestamp by going to the palace and launching a massive attack.

without editing the save game beyond changing the first byte of the F section of Celimyn-Tuek to 14 right after meeting Harah, as mentioned above. This even slows down the game by one period (moving from Tuono-Timin to Celimyn-Tuek then from Celimyn-Tuek to Habbanya-Tuek, instead of moving directly from Tuono-Timin to Habbanya-Tuek), in fact...

Several pieces of information about how I made that game run, and their consequences:

• zero Fremen killed by the Harkonnen, thanks to undoing / repeating several close battles multiple times (you usually end up being lucky at some point), and maybe 20 or 40 killed by sandworms (but no harvester swallowed, I undid that);
• no saboteurs, I undid that as well;
• only two spice shipments to the emperor at the end of day 3 (more than the Emperor asked for) and on day 9 (twice what the Emperor asked for);
• dozens of tons of spice mined as usual, since most troops from the Southern part of the planet kept mining spice;
• obviously, the prospectors troop didn't get around to prospecting the northern part of the planet, despite being equipped with an orni around day 9 (10 ?).
• equipping your army troops with ornis very early, the first one even before attacking the Bledan fortresses, helps a lot with espionage and attack;
• attacking the Harkonnen very early (days 5-7) in the Bledan region prevents sietch attacks from the Harkonnen in e.g. Carthag-Tabr;
• the fortresses in the Tsympo area are relatively easy to attack after picking up weirding modules from the Tsympo sietch;
• after winning battles in the Tsympo fortresses, then Arrakeen-Siet, you have enough equipment to attack Arrakeen-Tuek. I only figured that fairly recently. Even 12000+ inexperienced Fremen with inferior equipment can run over less than 2000 atomics-equipped Harkonnen, especially if you reach the fortress using a worm during the attack to boost your troops' motivation. Then, it's basically game over for the Harkonnen, as the atomics picked up there open up the door to e.g. the Haga region (possibly precedeed by Arrakeen-Clam, I don't remember what I did exactly) and its relatively easy weirding modules and atomics, which will be required for the rest of the Arrakeen region. Destroying Arrakeen-Tuek early has another upside: long before you get to attacking Arrakeen-Tabr and Arrakeen-Timin, Arrakeen-Tuek is transformed into a sietch, into which, unlike a Harkonnen fortress, you can tell Stilgar and Chani to stay while you're getting back to the Atreides palace to pick up Thufir Hawat and Jessica and bring them to one of the three locations closest to the Harkonnen palace;
• lots of free travel was used between sietches / fortresses, especially in the Arrakeen region (Tuek -> Tabr -> Clam -> Tsymyn -> Timin, Clam -> Harg) - extremely useful when visiting fortresses and moving characters from the Atreides (Carthag) palace to Arrakeen-Tuek, for instance;

It's pretty clear to me how this blueprint for a low internal game time can be beat with Dune version "21", as I didn't take advantage of multiple strategies, such as but probably not limited to:

• starting ecology experiments to boost troop motivation;
• moving to e.g. Carthag-Timin (instead of Tuono-Tabr) the army troop which I had Gurney Halleck train for several seconds in order to save two 1h30 periods flying in an orni between the sietch and the Atreides (Carthag) palace;
• using Gurney Halleck to train army troops. After letting him once in a sietch to trigger Baron Harkonnen's phony message which causes Leto to depart, etc., there's so much to do moving all over the planet with Stilgar and Harah in the beginning, then Stilgar and Chani, to enter / discover sietches / villages / fortresses that there was little opportunity to pick up Gurney Halleck back from the Atreides (Carthag) palace;
• using the same set of army troops in a smarter way: 4 of them ended up being ill together, and I didn't even bother undoing it because they had both low training and low equipment;
• converting spice troops from the southern half of the planet to army troops, though I'm not sure that would have helped much because of a lack of equipment, unless I resorted to...
• ... grabbing (more) weapons from the smugglers: I think I used the one in Tuono-Pyons for spice harvesters and ornis, but not for weapons, and if I bought weapons from the one in Tsympo-Pyons, it was too early in the game for him to offer weirding modules.

And besides this set of options, maybe there's some even smarter game strategy I haven't yet found in 20+ years of using the game on and off  

Also, without impacting the total game time, the spice mining troops could have mined quite a bit more spice if I had moved them to richer areas in the south.

 

Without using this auto save / load game cheat intensively, it's probably hard to avoid making three spice shipments to the Emperor, e.g. on days 3, 9 and 17 (well, that one can be delayed to 18 or 19, the Emperor will just get angry). However, having to make four spice shipments is a sign of a suboptimal attack strategy, as all Harkonnen fortresses can be easily destroyed by the end of day 23, even without using this auto save / load game cheat (I hadn't found it 20 years ago), and the fourth shipment can be made to occur on day 24 or 25.

Edited January 11, 2019 by Lord Winner
Fixed grammar at one place, added lots of information

[itwhite]

 Hi Guys,
There has to be a section in the save game files which stores who is in Paul's inventory.  I've been messing with the save games, and somehow i've "lost" Gurney and Chani.  The troops tell me he's excellent at training them - but he's not in the Sietch.  He's nowhere.  Chani was lost at about the time she should have tending to the ill.  I noticed her bug, she appeared visible on every screen until Duncan took her place, then she vanished.  
Has anyone found in the save files where the non-troop characters (Mum, Dad, Gurney, Chani, Harrah, Duncan, Liet, Hawat) are located?

 

[UnicornGraveyard]

So, the Fremen units you get from liberating Harkonnen fortresses don't appear in any of those lists. Are they randomized? I think you are guaranteed to get a troop whenever you win a battle for a fort, but I think if you take over an abandoned fort, there won't be a Fremen unit there.

[Lord Winner]

Yes, the Fremen troops you can recruit after liberating Harkonnen fortresses are randomized. The appearance of their respective leaders is always the same for the troop "belonging" to a given fortress, though on Dune "21" at least, there's occasionally a glitch where the Fremen leader notifying the player of a battle being won is neither any of the Fremen leaders whose troops won the battle, nor the Fremen leader of the troop you can recruit after entering the location and possibly having a Harkonnen captain captured. This glitch occurs especially for Arrakeen-Tsymyn.

However, the number of Fremen, and to some extent the sietch equipment left after the battle (especially in the Bledan area), are randomized, yielding a total number of Fremen on the planet between ~74K and ~81K, without losing any Fremen in a battle. The head count randomization is performed around an average value. Usually, after destroying the four Bledan fortresses and recruiting formerly slaved Fremen troops, you have a good estimation of how many Fremen you can count on for attacking fortresses, and therefore whether the game will be easier (~8K Fremen in the Bledan area, if you're lucky) or harder (~5K-6K Fremen in that area).

[hugslab]

On 7/17/2018 at 9:23 AM, itwhite said:

 Hi Guys,
There has to be a section in the save game files which stores who is in Paul's inventory.  I've been messing with the save games, and somehow i've "lost" Gurney and Chani.  The troops tell me he's excellent at training them - but he's not in the Sietch.  He's nowhere.  Chani was lost at about the time she should have tending to the ill.  I noticed her bug, she appeared visible on every screen until Duncan took her place, then she vanished.  
Has anyone found in the save files where the non-troop characters (Mum, Dad, Gurney, Chani, Harrah, Duncan, Liet, Hawat) are located?

 

character data is right after troop data and is laid out something like this:

         a  b  c    d    e    f  g  h
leto: 200a 80 01 dc9d 0000 0000 00 02

A :  the scene this character appears in (see field C of sietch data) + the room within the scene (in this case, the throne room of the palace)

B :  i *think* this is used for distance from a location if you leave someone in the desert?

C :  character is hidden when this is set to ff

D :  this is a function pointer used to start dialogue and i have no idea why it's present in save games

E&F :  unsure. these are set to zero at game start (thus compressed in save games)

G :  sprite index

H :  unsure

characters appear in this order: leto, jessica, thufir, duncan, gurney, stilgar, kynes, chani, harah, the baron, feyd, the emperor, soldiers, smugglers, fremen, fremen

[John2022]

Long time since this thread starts.

Happy somes continue it 😀

Too bad that some files, smiley are gones forever but you can retrieve some here https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://forum.dune2k.com/topic/20497-dune-cheats/

[Dmitri Fatkin]

On 8/9/2009 at 2:53 PM, pascal89 said:

I have edited the file. Leto is now willing to follow you

Do we have someone here who's aware of what bytes & at which offsets are responsible for a character's willingness to follow the player?

On 1/18/2017 at 5:26 PM, hugslab said:

For anyone super curious, the first byte of column F in John2022's sietch structure is used to determine when a sietch can be discovered. For example, Tuono-Tabr is set to 02, so when the game stage variable is 02 (which it is when Leto orders you to find the stillsuit maker), the sietch becomes discoverable.

The game stage only goes up to C8 (I think), so those locations set to FF are revealed through other events.

Is there a chance you could provide the exact version 3.7 offset which is responsible for the definition of Game Stage variable, along with initial associated data contents by the time when the game starts? Thank you.